Date: 2/28/13 6:00 am
From: Jared Fisher <Jared.Fisher...>
Subject: Re: [MDBirding] Identification of the swan at Cash Lake


Thanks Mikey for the very informative post. I'll admit to not even having
heard of this hybrid combination. I had written in my ebird checklist and
flickr description about this bird not appearing to show the classic V
pattern of Trumpeter swan (visible in this photo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69746634@N02/8490200154/in/photostream).
However with a close look (pointed out to me by Nancy Magnusson), there is
something a little weird going on with this field mark on this bird. There
is a discontinuity in the coloration, with the darkest black making a V
shape and a lighter shade in the middle. We had assumed that this was
perhaps just dirty/stained feathers? Of course, given all the other
inconsistencies mentioned, your case for it being intermediate is pretty
convincing. Does anyone have more information on the status of "Trumpling"
Swans or even other photos of presumed birds?

Thanks again,

Jared Fisher
Bethesda, MD

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Mikey Lutmerding <mlutmerding...>wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Recently, I have become a bit uncomfortable with the swan at Cash Lake
> being a pure Trumpeter Swan (TRUS). In the first few photos that
> circulated of the bird, and at some angles while viewing in person, it
> certainly did have the feel of Trumpeter, but in person and as seen in some
> of the excellent photos that have recently been made of this bird, I felt
> like something was a bit off. I went back and observed the bird again and
> noted the following features that caused me to dive into the murky waters
> of swan ID.
>
> - intermediate forehead shape (lacking prominent V of TRUS, not
> smoothly rounded as in Tundra Swan (TUSW)).
> - the concave look between the cheek and bill (too round for TRUS, not
> quite round enough for TUSW).
> - the pinched in look immediately in front of the eye.
> - the overall proportions.
>
> I discussed the bird with a few people (Matt Hafner, Bill Hubick,
> Marshall Iliff, Dan Small and Chris Wood) and they agreed that the bird
> seemed off and was not a good candidate for a pure Trumpeter. The
> consensus is that this may be a "Trumpling" Swan (a hybrid between
> Trumpeter and Tundra (Whistling) Swans). Chris Wood has experience with
> this hybrid combination and provided some excellent feedback on the bird
> pointing to its intermediate features. In addition to those talked about
> above, he mentioned another that I was unfamiliar with and that is the way
> the tail is held; it is often held in a stronger V shape reminiscent of a
> grackles tail on TRUS, whereas TUSW often hold theirs flat and this ones
> seemed intermediate, he also mentioned that the bill looked big (perhaps
> too small for TRUS, but too big for TUSW).
> Of course there is still a lot to learn and document on this bird and
> sound recordings would be ideal, so if anyone is planning on going to see
> this bird, and can make recordings, please do if you are lucky enough to
> hear the bird calling, and if anyone has any already, would you mind
> posting or passing them along? This is a great opportunity for us all
> study and learn about swan ID, something that I personally feel is an
> under-appreciated ID challenge.
>
> Photos of Trumpeter Swans:
> http://www.billhubick.com/photos/birds/trumpeter_swan.php
> *
> *Photos of the Cash Lake bird:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeycerw/
>
> Other excellent photos can be found within the following eBird checklist-
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S13115182
>
>
> Good birding!
>
> Mikey
>
> Mikey Lutmerding
> Croom, MD
>
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