Date: 3/24/13 4:46 pm
From: Frank Boyle <ravenfrank...>
Subject: Re: [MDBirding] Highly probable COMMON SNIPE St. Mary's County


I have found that property rights extremists are often as immovable as, say, those who misinterpret the Second Amendment. I am from Vermont, which has a very vocal, conservative part if the populace in regards to property rights. Wish I could say that common ground could be found here, but sometimes it cannot and we have to move on to more birder-friendly pastures, so to speak.


Frank Boyle
Rohrersville, MD

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On Mar 24, 2013, at 7:14 PM, <jovet...> wrote:

> Public roads are right of ways. However, if the farmer is THAT upset, he could solve the whole issue by shooting the bird... just sayin'. That would not be a good outcome.
>
> Wonder if someone might know him and "charm" him into softening his stance?
>
> Joanne
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> Joanne Howl, DVM
> <jovet...>
> West River MD
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Berry <jgbrc...>
> To: Mikey Lutmerding <mlutmerding...>; Matt Hafner <hafner.matt...>
> Cc: mdbirding <mdbirding...>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 24, 2013 6:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [MDBirding] Highly probable COMMON SNIPE St. Mary's County
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> Hi Everyone,
>
> I don't mean to cause a huge ugly debate, but isn't the shoulder of the road public right of way? If so, could one still "look at the fields" if they stay on public land?
>
> Now I totally agree with respecting private property rights and not pissing off people. That being said, I don't see the need to allow someone to restrict public access to a public right of way.
>
> Am I wrong about this? Does MD not have these public right aways? Or is it not permitted to have people walk in these areas?
>
> Thanks and again, I don't mean to cause any nasty debate - just honest questions from a DCer!
>
> Jason Berry
> Washington, DC
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> From: Mikey Lutmerding <mlutmerding...>
> To: Matt Hafner <hafner.matt...>
> Cc: <mdbirding...>
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [MDBirding] Highly probable COMMON SNIPE St. Mary's County
>
> Hi everyone,
> I apologize in advance, I was just told in no uncertain terms by the land owner that no one is welcome to look at the fields for this bird, it is private property but I was on the road the whole time and did not think it an issue, I tried to explain the magnitude of the record and he told me that no one was to look at his fields.
> Sorry for this news,
> Mikey
> On Mar 24, 2013 4:28 PM, "Matt Hafner" <hafner.matt...> wrote:
> Mikey Lutmerding has found a snipe that looks very much like a COMMON SNIPE on Camp Brown Rd in St. Mary's County. Photos from his camera like the one attached have been sent to a few people who think it looks very good! Look at those white underwings!!! Amazing record!!!
>
> Directions: on the right side of Camp Brown just past Fairview Rd.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Matt Hafner
> Forest Hill, MD
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