Date: 3/25/13 4:40 pm
From: Jason Berry <jgbrc...>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [MDBirding] Re: Private property problems


I didn't say it's a fine idea to bird this location. �What I said was my sense of the discussion was that birders "can bird" on the side of roads where there's a public right of way. �

I agree with everyone that said we birders should be friendly and go out of our way to let people know what we're doing and ask permission to access private property. �That being said, I don't think birders should let hostile people veto birding opportunities for others that are not on their property.

Jason Berry
Washington, DC

P.S.�yes, I agree it must be weird to have someone look your way with binoculars or a scope and it's incumbent upon the birder to try to be as nice as possible.


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From: James Speicher <jugornought...>
To: Maryland Birding Birding <mdbirding...>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [MDBirding] Re: Private property problems


I'm not in agreement with Jason that it has been concluded that it is a fine idea to go to this location. Legally, certainly within the limits that might vary based on the view of local law enforcement concerning vehicles stopped along roadways/shoulders. However, i do have a suggestion for those who will go:

If you are confronted by the angry/defensive property owner, you might ask him if there is anything you can do to help him out today. The first 1/2 dzn times he is asked, he might have the same reply "Get off my property, " but after that who knows, it may turn him around...

Jim Speicher

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Jason Berry wrote:
I think this was a good discussion and seems to have settled on the conclusion that birders can bird the side of the road...
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