Date: 4/6/2000 3:59:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: jwcoffey@tricon.net (Valley Birds) To: jwcoffey@tricon.net (Valley Birds) From: Gene Sattler Subject: RE: Chickadee hybrids Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:08:59 -0400 Look for a paper to come out this month in The Auk on the subject of chickadee hybridization. The reference is: Sattler, G. D., and M. J. Braun. 2000. Morphometric variation as an indicator of genetic interactions between Black-capped and Carolina chickadees at a contact zone in the Appalachian Mountains. Auk 117(2):427-444. Estimates of the proportion of hybrids from twelve population samples along two transects crossing the hybrid zone in Virginia and West Virginia are given. Hybridization exceeded 58% of birds at the center of both contact areas. These estimates were based on four diagnostic genetic markers, three DNA-based and one protein-based. A multivariate analysis of morphology was based on three measurements: mass, wing chord, and tail length. It could distinguish the two species when they were sampled far from the contact zone. However, at the contact zone the morphology of the hybrids overlapped broadly with those individuals diagnosed genetically as either species. So the identity of most individuals in some populations close to the contact zone was open to question based on these morphological characters. Song is not addressed in this paper, but will be in a follow-up paper treating the same populations. Basically, however, at those two transects studied, at the center of each contact zone, some birds were bilingual, and sang what sounded like good songs of both species. A multivariate analysis of several song characters confirmed that most songs sampled in the hybrid zone, even of bilingual birds, did not differ from the typical species' songs of the two chickadees. That is, few songs were of an intermediate nature, even those of bilingual birds. Use of the same four genetic markers used in the morphology study also showed that bilingual birds were not necessarily hybrids. And the correlation between a song's characteristics and the singing bird's genetics was very weak. This is not surprising, given the strong role of learning in the development of song in many songbirds. So song is going to be even less reliable than morphology in identifying these chickadees when you are in an area of contact. Chickadee calls will not be analyzed in this paper. A earlier paper that showed the capability of Black-capped and Carolina chickadees to do a reasonable job of learning each others' songs in the laboratory is: Kroodsma, D. E., D. J. Albano, P. W. Houlihan, and J. W. Wells. 1995. Song development by Black-capped Chickadees (Parus atricapillus) and Carolina Chickadees (P. carolinensis). Auk 112:29-43. Bottom line: We should accept the fact that where the ranges of the two chickadees meet there is a narrow region where the species boundary is fuzzy, and field identifications don't count for much. Realistically a chickadee there is a "chickadee sp.", and is as likely to be a hybrid as anything else. (How narrow is "narrow?" At least five miles wide, but the figure is probably going to vary at different locations.) *These conclusions do not necessarily apply to birds encountered in winter that could be individuals that have moved down from far north of the contact zone. Such birds are considerably larger, and are not necessarily hard to identify based on measurements, or even sight ID or rate of calling, especially when other birds are available for comparison, such as at a feeder. Caution is always warranted, however. Finally, a natural question that is likely to be raised is, "Are these two birds one species or two?" If you use the definition of a species based on reproductive isolation (biological species concept), which seems straightforward, the answer is not necessarily that clear. Many hybrid chickadees were present, and most are probably not sterile, because the four genetic markers show most of the chickadees to be not first-generation hybrids, but later-generation hybrids (backcrosses, etc.). But for three of the four genetic markers, the area of genetic mixing between the two chickadees was less than 25 miles wide. This indicates some kind of a genetic barrier, and argues for two species status. However, the fourth genetic marker showed evidence of long-range introgression or genetic mixing, and would argue for one species status. Which type of marker is more representative? It's not easy to determine. There is a natural bias towards the use of markers that are likely to show little genetic mixing, because these are the type of markers that will be diagnostic in identifying each species without question. These chickadees could be in the early stages of blending together, or they could over time have all genetic mixing cease. But just as likely, this could represent a stable hybrid zone that will maintain a fuzzy boundary between the two forms for a long, long time. If this last scenario is the case, then they could maintain their basic genetic integrity, but also have the capability of exchanging some genes, especially if that trait is a useful one, under positive selection. Bottom line: We don't know, and the question may not really have an answer (unless you're partial to the kind that are simple, and usually wrong). But based on these results, I wouldn't expect the two-species status to change. So if you're a lister, you can probably relax ;) Gene Sattler Liberty University Lynchburg, VA ======================================================================= To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey ======================================================================= =========================================================================