Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:48:23 -0500 Reply-To: Maryland Birds & Birding Sender: Maryland Birds & Birding From: Aaron Haines Subject: Re: Worn out welcome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I am willing to throw in a couple of bucks or whatever is called for in the MDOSPREY community to help repair the fence. I think this is a good idea. I definately do not want to put anyone on the spot, but I think it would be nice to have something organized. Even if it is not a lot, it is still a gesture of good will. >From: Daniel Mullarkey >Reply-To: Maryland Birds & Birding >To: MDOSPREY@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM >Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Worn out welcome >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:11:08 -0500 > >I think Laura Appelbaum's idea of offering to help repair the fence >damage is a good one. Not being a MOS member (or MD resident) and not >having seen the owl, I held off on commenting for a day. But I have >to say I'm sad to see that no one has seconded the idea, or offered to >help, at least not publicly. Hopefully something is being done >off-list, but if not, that's a shame. Birders as a group seem to be >very helpful and caring people (one of the things I like best about >birding), but let's not rest on our laurels. I applaud efforts to >prevent this kind of problem in the future, but let's not forget to >try to fix this particular problem. As Laura pointed out, the effort >might be rejected, but it should be made, and may have some longer >term benefits. > >My two cents, >Dan Mullarkey > > >>> "Laura M. Appelbaum" 01/11 2:01 PM > >>> >Just a thought in response to Bob Mumford's message about a >particular >landowner on Oland Road being really ticked off at us birders ... one >of >his complaints is that someone broke his fence, which surely would >get >anyone angry. What do y'all think about one of us contacting Mr. >Crawford on behalf of MOS and offering for some of us birders to come >up >in the spring when the ground is soft again, and replacing the >broken >section of fencing/helping walk the property and mend other areas as >well? > >I'm a long-time member of the NSS (National Speleological Society) >and >since many caves in the East are on private property, we try to put >a >special emphasis on landowner-caver relationships. This kind of >situation (trespassing, broken fences, etc) comes up often, and >we've >found that making appeasing gestures, even in cases where the damage >hasn't been done by our membership, can go a long way to >rehabilitate >the image of cavers in the eyes of locals. Even if a given >landowner >turns down an offer of assistance, it does seem to help if they feel >that someone is willing to take responsibility. Sounds to me like >this >might be one of those cases only vis a vis birders. > >Laura Appelbaum >Cloverly, MD > >======================================================================= >To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to >listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com > >with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey >======================================================================= > >======================================================================= >To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com >with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey >======================================================================= _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ======================================================================= To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey ======================================================================= =========================================================================