Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:41:36 -0500 Reply-To: Maryland Birds & Birding Sender: Maryland Birds & Birding From: Greg Downing Subject: Re: Worn out welcome MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps we ought to write the land owner a letter and offer our desire to help first before we organize anything. The guy might have no interest is whatever we offer. It would have to be a group effort since one person cannot speak for all of us here. We should wait to see what the MOS Executive Committee has to say about things first. Perhaps they may suggest a letter of some sort. Greg Downing Parkton, MD gregdowning@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Haines" To: Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Worn out welcome > I am willing to throw in a couple of bucks or whatever is called for in the > MDOSPREY community to help repair the fence. I think this is a good idea. > I definately do not want to put anyone on the spot, but I think it would be > nice to have something organized. Even if it is not a lot, it is still a > gesture of good will. > > >From: Daniel Mullarkey > >Reply-To: Maryland Birds & Birding > >To: MDOSPREY@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM > >Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Worn out welcome > >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:11:08 -0500 > > > >I think Laura Appelbaum's idea of offering to help repair the fence > >damage is a good one. Not being a MOS member (or MD resident) and not > >having seen the owl, I held off on commenting for a day. But I have > >to say I'm sad to see that no one has seconded the idea, or offered to > >help, at least not publicly. Hopefully something is being done > >off-list, but if not, that's a shame. Birders as a group seem to be > >very helpful and caring people (one of the things I like best about > >birding), but let's not rest on our laurels. I applaud efforts to > >prevent this kind of problem in the future, but let's not forget to > >try to fix this particular problem. As Laura pointed out, the effort > >might be rejected, but it should be made, and may have some longer > >term benefits. > > > >My two cents, > >Dan Mullarkey > > > > >>> "Laura M. Appelbaum" 01/11 2:01 PM > > >>> > >Just a thought in response to Bob Mumford's message about a > >particular > >landowner on Oland Road being really ticked off at us birders ... one > >of > >his complaints is that someone broke his fence, which surely would > >get > >anyone angry. What do y'all think about one of us contacting Mr. > >Crawford on behalf of MOS and offering for some of us birders to come > >up > >in the spring when the ground is soft again, and replacing the > >broken > >section of fencing/helping walk the property and mend other areas as > >well? > > > >I'm a long-time member of the NSS (National Speleological Society) > >and > >since many caves in the East are on private property, we try to put > >a > >special emphasis on landowner-caver relationships. This kind of > >situation (trespassing, broken fences, etc) comes up often, and > >we've > >found that making appeasing gestures, even in cases where the damage > >hasn't been done by our membership, can go a long way to > >rehabilitate > >the image of cavers in the eyes of locals. Even if a given > >landowner > >turns down an offer of assistance, it does seem to help if they feel > >that someone is willing to take responsibility. Sounds to me like > >this > >might be one of those cases only vis a vis birders. > > > >Laura Appelbaum > >Cloverly, MD > > > >======================================================================= > >To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to > >listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com > > > >with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey > >======================================================================= > > > >======================================================================= > >To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com > >with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey > >======================================================================= > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ======================================================================= > To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com > with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey > ======================================================================= ======================================================================= To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey ======================================================================= =========================================================================