Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:51:52 -0500 Reply-To: Maryland Birds & Birding Sender: Maryland Birds & Birding From: Bill Ellis Subject: Re: A little question In-Reply-To: <000001c3afcf$2172f960$6400a8c0@NORM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Norm: Patuxent links to the Integrated Taxonomic Information System, which does show Podicipediformes (and Falconiformes, and Gaviiformes) as synonymous with Ciconiiformes. http://www.itis.usda.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search _value=174770 Like I said in my previous posting - they have swallowed Sibley and Ahlquist, hook, line, and sinker. Marcus made no mistake - ITIS did. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Maryland Birds & Birding [mailto:MDOSPREY@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM]On Behalf Of Norm Saunders Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:31 PM To: MDOSPREY@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] A little question I think you may have misinterpreted something, Marcus. Ciconiiformes includes herons, bitterns, egrets, storks, and ibises. Grebes are in the order Podicipediformes--they have it all to themselves, I believe, since the loons are in Gaviiformes. Check the website again and see if you can figure out what went wrong. Best, Norm > -----Original Message----- > From: Maryland Birds & Birding [mailto:MDOSPREY@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] > On Behalf Of Marcus James > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:09 PM > To: MDOSPREY@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM > Subject: [MDOSPREY] A little question > > > Hello > I was just at the Patuxent Wildlife Research site, > looking up the Pied-billed Grebe. When I looked up > it's Taxonomy, it said the grebe is in the order Ciconiformes. The way > it looked, there are a lot of other birds in that order also, > penguins, loons, albatrosses, etc. > Has there been a 'new' ornithological 'conclusion' > that says this, or is it just the way they had it on > that site that made it look like all those kinds birds > are in the same order? > I know, silly question, right? > Marcus James > Columbia, Howard County, MD ======================================================================= To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey ======================================================================= ======================================================================= To leave the MDOsprey list, send e-mail to listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com with the following message in line 1: signoff mdosprey ======================================================================= =========================================================================