Date:         Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:37:28 -0500
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From:         Edward Boyd <edboyd59@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Invite to records committee
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Paul,

Sorry that I haven't called you back yet. I received you message late on Sunday and have been very busy the last two days. I have a meeting tonight and work tomorrow and Thursday evenings. I'll try to catch up to you by the weekend but my preliminary response is to gladly accept, although I'm not how I got on the list of victims... um...ah... I mean nominees. Must have been my great write up of a Mississippi Kite from about 25 years ago. I'm still not living that one down.

Ed Boyd
Westminster, MD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul O'Brien" <PObrien776@AOL.COM>
To: <MDOSPREY@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Maryland Kelp Gull Accepted


> Bill,
>
> You raised a good question regarding the subspecies of the Maryland 
> Kelp
Gull
> (KEGU).  I think it is safe to say that the systematics of KEGUs are 
> evolving.  We referenced a paper by Frederic Jiguet in 2000 in which 
> he
describes two
> new subspecies and gives data on the body measurements and plumage 
> characteristics of five subspecies.  We don't know whether the
ornithological world will
> accept his new subspecies, or if the characteristics he employs to 
> differentiate them will hold up to further study.  For our purposes we
noted that the
> pattern of mirrors and tongues on the primaries of "Shrimpy", the MD 
> KEGU, matched that of the Brazilian population, from which the 
> nominate KEGU,
Larus
> dominicanus dominicanus, was first described.  Equally important for 
> the
committee's
> review process was the different pattern seen in the primaries of
Antarctic
> KEGUs.  Since all known KEGUs in collections in the US were derived 
> from Antarctic birds, we concluded that it was unlikely that Shrimpy 
> escaped
from such
> collections.  But we noted in the Decision Report that we could not be
certain
> that Shrimpy came from Brazil because we did not know whether some as 
> yet unstudied population of KEGUs might also exhibit the same pattern 
> of
primary
> mirrors and tongues as the Brazilian birds (one mirror on P10 and 
> tongues
on P4&5).
> All we knew was that Shrimpy probably was not derived from an 
> Antarctic population (mirror on P10, tongues on P5,6&7).
>
> Sorry for the long-winded response, but there was no easy way to 
> clarify
the
> issue.  As the systematics of KEGUs are in flux, so also is the
distribution,
> with another one seen in Colorado recently.  We will no doubt hear  a 
> lot
more
> about this interesting gull before it is all over.
>
> Paul O'Brien
> Rockville, Mont. Co., MD
> pobrien776@aol.com
>
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