The place is Pine Knob Road, well described by Darius Ecker in a previous MD_Osprey message. (Darius was the first one to have reported crossbills from this location). About 30 minutes after he and Paula left (about 12:55 pm) we began to be visited by cooperative White-winged Crossbills. Several flocks of 4-6 birds and 8-10 birds flew into the trees along the road. (They can still be tough to see and find, however). For about 30 minutes, we had crossbills clearly in view in our binocs and scopes. Most were female-type White-winged Crossbills. At least one adult male was present and gave us good looks. Also, a pair of Red Crossbills flew in a gave us a good comparison look. (The week before, it was the hot spot for Red Crossbills, with few WWs!). My experience has been that crossbills are generally quiet while feeding and roosting, and mostly call in flight (but not always). Scan the tops of the pines, where the cones are, and listen for flock flight calls. Be careful, there are many Pine Siskins in the area. Again, patience is the needed virtue! This has been a great spot ... we looked at detailed map with Ed Boyd last weekend and came up with one theory ... there seems to be an "arm" of White Pines that runs to this spot from the reservoir, about 1/3 of a mile long, or so. The pines end just past the spot where the road cuts through. My theory is that as the birds work their way from the reservoir out this "ridge" of pines, when they get to the end, there is no place to go, so they either circle or put down to feed. (to Mineral Hill Rd, then to Pine Knob Rd). At one point, you will go uphill, pines will be along the road on both sides, there are two fire road gates on the right (east side). The road has nice wide shoulders on both sides. Unfortunately, there is a fair amount of traffic, which makes it a little tougher to hear the flocks. Oh well. Mill Road for several miles, turn left on Pine Knob Road. The spot is .8 mile from Rt 32. Happy hunting ... Phil ------------------------------------------------------------ Phil Davis home: PDavis@ix.netcom.com Davidsonville, Maryland, USA work: PDavis@OAO.com Greenbelt, Maryland, USA ------------------------------------------------------------