RE: MDOSPREY posts

Darius Ecker (dariuse@abs.net)
Sat, 7 Feb 1998 06:13:03 -0500


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Hi Gary,

To understand this, you had to have belonged to the "Old" Osprey's Nest. =
 In the old bulletin board system, you had to do something extra to make =
a message private. Posting to "ALL" was the default.  Not many people =
would do the extra step to make a message private, so a culture evolved =
where semi-personal messages were posted to "ALL".  =20

Now, I don't believe anyone would talk about his prostate operation to =
the entire TON  (TON is the old short abbreviation for "The Osprey's =
Nest"), but a short message to one or two people about an upcoming =
birding expedition was certainly acceptable.  Actually, there was even a =
lot of positive interaction that developed because of this.  For =
instance, someone else who read the message might respond and say, "Hey, =
can I come along !". And most of the time this type of response is =
welcomed.  It's this type of interaction that us long term Osprey =
Nesters (me included) don't want to see go away.

Norm finances this out of his own pocket, so I think we should at least =
honor his wishes for what he wants MDOSPREY to become.  After all, it's =
his nickel.

I hope to bump into in the field sometime soon, perhaps Arizona ?

Good Birding,

Darius.


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From: 	Felton, Gary L.[SMTP:glf1@cdc.gov]
Sent: 	Friday, February 06, 1998 8:43 PM
To: 	mdosprey@ARI.Net
Subject: 	MDOSPREY posts


> I agree with Peter Robinson on this and mine was one of the posts that
> Norm refered to in his initial post regarding this matter.  And quite
> frankly, I was surprised that my suggestion was met with such ire.
> My suggestion was in no way an attempt to censure anyone's opinion,
> comments, advice, sentiments, levity, light chit-chat or anything bird
> related as long as they have at least some relative bearing or
> signifigance to the group as a whole.  But, for instance, if John Doe
> has plans to bird only with Bill Smith on Saturday and he decides to
> call Bill Friday evening to confirm the arrangement,  then it would
> make no sense whatsoever  to call fifty other people and turn it into
> a conference call when it concerns no one other than John and Bill
> exclusively.  Unless that is, if John and Bill are informally letting
> everyone know that anyone else that wants to show up and bird with
> them is welcome.   But most of these type of purely personal
> correspondence posts are the same as turning a personal phone call
> into a conference call among 50 to 100 individuals.  But, based on the
> majority of sentiments I am seeing this seems to be acceptable to and
> actually welcomed by most.      =20
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> Gary Felton
> Rowlesburg, WV
> GLF1@CDC.GOV
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> Joe --
>=20
> I'm not trying to pick on you or anyone else personaly, but the
> message=20
> below that I just read has reminded me that there seems to be MANY=20
> messages posted on mdosprey that are really personal messages to one
> or=20
> two people, that it seems should be sent directly to those people, not
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> to the entire listserve group.  I've resisted making this comment for=20
> weeks, thinking that the "newness" of mdosprey was the reason, but it=20
> seems to be continuing.
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> Is anyone else of the same opinion, or am I the only one?
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> Peter Robinson
> peterrobins@hotmail.com
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> ----Original Message Follows----
> To: mdosprey@ARI.Net
> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:03:19 -0500
> Subject: info request
> From: halpinj@juno.com (Joseph j Halpin)
> Reply-To: mdosprey@ARI.Net
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> To: Les Eastman and Ric Blom
>=20
> Paul Dumont, who is leading the ANS/MOS birding trip mid February,
> wants
> to phone you before the trip. If you agree, you can provide your
> phones
> numbers to me and I will forward them to Paul.  Paul is not an
> internet/computer user.
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> Joe Halpin
> Silver Spring, MD
> email: halpinj @juno.com
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