Records committees base their acceptance or rejection on two issues: 1. Is the bird what it is reported to be, and 2. Is the bird a natural wanderer, i.e., did it get to the location on its own. Being comprised of humans, every committee is subject to errors/mistakes. Their judgement on the latter issue is sometimes questionable. Remember the BT Gull at Sandy Point a dozen or so years ago? It was concluded that this bird was ship or man assisted, based on the fact that there were few records outside the Pacific area. Thus, probability was used as the basis for judgement, as it often is. Yet: 1. Several BT Gulls have appeared on the East Coast since and 2. It is unlikely that a person would keep a gull in captivity (outside a zoo) and beyond comprehension that a gull would stay aboard a ship across the Pacific, through the Panama Canal and up the Atlantic coast. As a person who has 640,000 miles at sea, my belief is that the term "ship assisted" is mostly in the minds of conservative birders, not derived from experience. Birds simply do not stay aboard ship for more than a few hours or a few days at most. For those who think that vagrants should be discussed in bird clubs, on e-mail and in person, I say, the more the better. Discussion (and debate) is what leads to truth, and truth does not reside in one person or a couple of individuals. Bob Mumford Darnestown, MD