Hi! As a new subscriber to Md Osprey please forgive me for being slightly behind in discussions. I'd like to reply to Mary Gustafson's opinion as stated by her, "this record will be reviewed in the appropiate venue, which is the Maryland DC records Committee. Identifications of this magnitude should not be decided on the internet or at a bird club meeting". I find her opinion to be both elitist and arrogant, and hope her ideas are not representative of the records committee. ( Unfortunately this kind of talk is why the records committee is sometimes referred to as the "bird police", or even worse, the "avian gestapo"). If you doubt there are those who perceive it as such, note that this subject was covered in at least two articles in Md. Birdlife.(Vol.48, No.1, March 92 and Vol.52, No.1, March 96) Ms. Gustafson's attitude might explain one of the reasons why more and more amateur birders do not bother with reporting unusual sightings to records committees or even Hotlines. I am still amused that a former local hotline operator doubted and questioned my large accipter sightings at length, yet was infuriated when I pointed out the same hotline had reported many erroneous raptor sightings such as "female merlins" and "male ferruginous hawks". I find it interesting that critiquing someone's ID only goes one-way! Of course legitimate sightings are often not reported when people feel intimated or ridiculed and the whole birding community loses when this happens. As far as the recent discussion on the New Design Road gyrfalcon, in my opinion Daniel Eberly has made some excellent points. My guess is 300+ raptor enthusiasts saw the gyrfalcon and it is no closer to being passed then when it was seen years ago. I submit that had it been seen by only the original observer,(even though the falcon was in hand) it would never have stood a <chance> of passing the records committee. Please note that the state of Virginia has had two reputable gyrfalcon sightings. I also find it interesting that the people who tell me if <my> sightings are correct are never seen at area hawkwatches. BTW, the Bird Banding Lab has never questioned the validity of the Md. gyr's I.D., and their data will be surely used by future researchers. Let's hope in the future that all birders' opinions will be encouraged and respected by fellow birders. Paul Fritz