Since Mark Hoffman's analysis is "uneven", and full of "fallacies", I must write in his defense. I saw the gull at Conowingo on a weekday in early January. Based on the descriptions others had given me of the tail pattern, I believed that I was looking at the correct individual. It was an obvious Ring-billed Gull. I had been in England a week earlier, where I had observed dozens of first winter canus (=Common Gull) at close range in London parks. The Conowingo bird did not really look like any typical canus. It would be a very extreme canus. The head and bill shape were typical of Ring-billed. The bill color was more typical of Ring-billed than of canus. The shade of gray on the mantle, paleness of the greater covert panel, and the contrast of both with the median coverts and primaries were all typical of Ring-billed Gull. While these feature are variable, and overlap to a degree, together they strongly suggested Ring-billed. I was too far to observe median and greater covert markings, but other features pointed so obviously to Ring-billed that I was convinced that the bird was not canus. Susequently, I saw Mark Hoffman's very good photos, and Bob Ringler's video. They confirmed that I had seen the same bird. Most importantly, they gave detailed looks at the pattern of the greater and median coverts. Mark has written a careful and detailed analysis, which together with his photos, argues persuasively that the bird is a Ring-billed Gull. The only feature on this bird that approached canus was the very nice, neat tail band and very clean white tail above the band. If you have looked at Ring-bills you know that a few birds in a hundred will approach this pattern, with an almost canus-type tail. A few Ring-bills in a thousand will have a tail and covert pattern seemingly identical to that of a typical canus. Gulls are just terribly variable. There is no way one can identify all gulls correctly using a single feature. The Peterson system does not work here. One must try to evaluate a large number of features together, and, (with gulls especially!) some of these features will contradict each other. Even so some birds will not be identifiable. In this case the evidence of all other features points to Ring-billed Gull. The Tove article in Birding is excellent, but it did not have room to go into all the possible variations in these species. The tail band (at least for Ring-billed), is far more variable than is shown in the illustration in that article. Despite the tail pattern, I would not even call the Conowingo bird a strange Ring-billed Gull. It is a Ring-bill with an uncommon tail pattern. Given that both species have crossed the Atlantic, it is not impossible that they might hybridize from time to time. But in this case, since all features (including the tail band), match the range of variation in Ring- billed Gull, I see no particular reason to think that this bird was a hybrid. Dave Czaplak Germantown MD