RE: Raven in Carroll Co.

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Bob Ringler wrote :

>	As for the calls, once or twice annually I hear American Crows 
> giving a very raven-like croak.  Each time I try to locate the 
> perpetrator to visually confirm my suspicion.  Though the call is very 
> similar it can be differentiated after hearing it a few times and 
> recognizing it for what it is.  I have observed American Crows giving 
> this call in Allegany County as well as here.  However, I have never 
> suspected Fish Crows of this call.  Consequently, I would be cautious 
> about birds that were only heard.

I beleive I may have been one of the people suggesting that the strange "Raven like" call could have been 
from a Fish Crow.  I did observe a crow making this call once, in Howard County.  When I think about it
I could have easily mis-identified this bird, and it could have been an American Crow since I didn't hear the
usual  "unn ... unn" Fish Crow call come from this same bird.  I did hear Fish Crow calls in the same location
coming from different birds, but since Fish Crows and American Crows sometimes occur in mixed flocks,
that doesn't help much.

Does anyone know if there are any recordings of the American Crow "raven like" call ? I've only heard it twice in six
years of birding. I'd love to compare it to a Raven's call.

Good Birding,

Darius Ecker (dariuse@abss.net)

Columbia, Maryland

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