Howard, Tom -- thanks for the Sligo Creek note. It is certainly close enough for use to check quite often. We did go off to Frederick several times last fall, but perhaps we left our visit to too late in the season. We will no doubt try Oland Road again, as well as Sligo Creek. Fred -- we'd love to join you some day when the herons are in residence. Let us know. Which reminds me, PWRC used to give wonderful special tours. Norm and I took one quite early in our birding careers. Are they still offering these? Fran -------------------------------- Fran Saunders Maryland Ornithological Society State Web Site Director saunderf@ari.net http://www2.ari.net/saunderf/mos/mos.html