Marshall and I tried to get into the landfill on Wednesday am and were told at the office that you need special permission to get in. This requires calling ahead, wearing a hard hat, etc. That implies to me that they really do not want birders in the landfill. I do not have the landfill number here today but will look for it and post next week if I find it. If anyone wants to set up a trip, please call ahead for permission then let the birders know. George >>> <WHershbe@afrs.ars.usda.gov> 01/07/99 11:20pm >>> In preparing for a trip to see the white-winged gulls... Does anyone know when the PWRC visitors center opens on Saturdays? Also, does anyone know when the landfill closes that is near the center? Thanks in advance, Wil Hershberger ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!