This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_917361873_boundary Content-ID: <0_917361873@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII My e-mail keeps giving me the message that the following post is not currently available, so I'll send it again. My apologies if it is a duplication for anyone. Paul --part0_917361873_boundary Content-ID: <0_917361873@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: PObrien776@aol.com Return-path: <PObrien776@aol.com> To: mdosprey@ARI.Net Subject: Re: Trumpeter Swans at Conowingo Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:52:17 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Rick, I don't know about the "countability" of the Trumpeter Swans. I think ABA has some fairly strict guidlines having to do with stable and growing populations and acceptance by the local records committee (now there's a problem) before one should count a bird. But documentation is essential if we are ever to establish a pattern of winter (or other season) visitations regardless of the origin of the birds. I know that the Minnesota restoration project was in full swing two decades ago. If that population has stabilized and grown on its own, they could be candidates for eventual counting. I don't know about other populations around the Great Lakes. I guess Ontario is the only other project I have heard of, and I have no idea how long that one has been under way. We ( Dave Czaplak, et al.) had an unbanded Trumpeter Swan at Black Hill a few years back, but we didn't know what to do with it except file it for future reference. I think there was one on West Ocean City pond once also, and there may be others. It would be useful to compile these sightings for the record. Michael and Louise's e-mail address has not changed, but the server has them up and running again. Oh, go ahead, do more Christmas counts. Lightning can strike again. Paul pobrien776@aol.com --part0_917361873_boundary--