A brief addendum to Phil Davis's posting about Trumpeter Swans and the fact that they were accepted last year by the Maryland/DC Records Committee as an extirpated species in Maryland: As detailed by Phil, the gazetteer published in 1835 by Joseph Martin was thorough enough to give values for the wingspread and length of the larger of the two kinds of swans frequenting the Potomoc at the mouth of the Occoquan and below (the kind Martin called "trumpeter"). On checking, it turned out that those dimensions are compatible with the dimensions of Trumpeter Swan, and are too large to be compatible with Tunda/Whistling/(??slooper) Swan. Harvey ____________________________________ S. Harvey Mudd NIMH/DIRP/LMB Building 36, Room 1B-08 36 CONVENT DR MSC 4034 BETHESDA MD 20892-4034 tel: 301-496-0681; fax 301-402-0245 email: shm@codon.nih.gov