forward: [BIRDWG01] Amazing New {slaty-backed} Gull Photos from

Robert Weiner (rweiner@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu)
Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:23:40 -0500 (EST)


ospreyers,

This post to ID-frontiers should be salient. Reactions from you
conowingers would be of interest. . .

Robert Weiner (rweiner@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu)
International Business Department
George Washington University
Washington DC 20052
202 994 5981

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:11:43 -0800
From: Bruce E. Webb <BruWebb@NS.NET>
To: BIRDWG01@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [BIRDWG01] Amazing New Gull Photos from Japan

No doubt, these are the finest series of Slaty-backed Gull photos yet to be
offered over the internet.  Thanks to Alan Chartier for photographing them
and to Bob Lewis for posting them. I look forward to seeing the rest of the
gulls in the series.

I see several photos in Alan's series of adults that are near matches for
the gull I photographed at Beals Point in California about one year ago.
http://www.ns.net/~BruWebb/BealsPoint.htm . The wide, white scapular
crescents, the dark mantle, the extent and intensity of head streaks, even
the shape of the white primary tips match.

Up until now, other sources like the Tacoma, Washington Slaty-backed photos
look extremely black-backed compared to these from Japan -- I think partly
due to harsh direct light versus diffuse light conditions.
http://www.ups.edu/biology/museum/SBGUphoto1.jpg
http://www.ups.edu/biology/museum/SBGUphoto3.jpg

Even in Jon Dunn's Gull Video, the adult Vega Gulls standing on the beach
next to adult Glaucous Gulls still give me pause to think that adult Vega
Gulls might appear quite a bit darker-mantled than Herring Gulls.

I hope the some of the remaining gulls to be posted in Alan's series from
Japan might include some mixed species, side-by-side shots, so we can
compare mantle colors variation both within Slaty-backed Gulls and between
Slaty-backed and Vega Gulls.  For example what is that slightly
lighter-mantled gull in the background on image D?

Great work.


Bruce E. Webb
BruWebb@ns.net
(916) 797-0535


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert H. Lewis <lewis@bway.net>
To: BIRDWG01@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU <BIRDWG01@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 7:40 AM
Subject: [BIRDWG01] Amazing New Gull Photos from Japan


>Larophiles,
>
>   Allen Chartier visited Japan in November 1998 and has brought back an
>amazing collection of gull photos.  I am pleased and honored to present
>them on my gull web site.
>
>   The Slaty-backed photos are on line now, and in the days ahead I will
>add photos of Kamchatka, Vega, Glaucous-winged, and others.
>
>   Neither he nor I are very familiar with Asian gulls, so of course
>comments are welcome indeed from those who are!
>
>   I believe this is the finest collection of Slaty-backed photos I have
>ever seen.
>
>Enjoy!
>
>Bob Lewis
>Sleepy Hollow NY
>http://www.bway.net/~lewis/birds/gulls.html
>