I would like to raise a few questions about the Kelp Gull currently being seen in St.Mary's County, MD. Not specifically about ID, but rather, origin and countability. The KGs discovered on the Gulf Coast in 1989 and their subsequent, somewhat successful attempts at breeding on the Chandeleurs of the coast of Louisiana bring a few obvious questions to a head. Namely, where did this gull come from? Is it a true vagrant, wandering the Atlantic and showing up here, presumably due to some strange wheather brougth on by the current El Nino/La Nina events? Or is it a bird from much closer to home, the Chandeleurs? Or even the Yucatan (presuming those Mexican birds are still around)? If it is a true vagrant, then "Yee Haw!!!" and I'll be the first to tick it on my life-list. But what if it is an hybrid bird, a result of many crosses and back-crosses there down on the Chandeleurs. If the bird originated in the Gulf of Mexico, then it seems unlikely to me that this bird is a pure Kelp Gull. Now, I am no expert, and crossing an ID made by Michael O'brien may be like spitting at God (at least to me, as I've heard the best birders I know consider out loud Mr. O'brien's closeness to Sainthood), but maybe we as a whole are not considering all possibilities? Is this bird a hybrid? Specifically, is it an F2 or F3 Kelp Gull/Herring Gull hybrid with more Kelpie phenotype than HeGu phenotype? And, not to be dense, but what about LBBG/GBBG hybrid? And what's more, and I know this ground has been tread before, Kelp Gulls are a coldwater, southern hemisphere bird. I have read that they may be an invasive species, as they may have invaded Australia in the late 20th century. And I know that the Humboldt Current comes a good ways up into the Atlantic. However, ship-assisted birds are still a possibility and one that should not be shrugged off. Lastly, concerning this bird's countability. I know the Texas Records Committee accepted the Galveston bird, but as far as I'm aware, the ABA Checklist Committee has not said anything on this since 1997. Again, I am not an expert!!! Reread this statement as many times as you need to if I have said anything offensive, ignorant, or just plain stupid. However, I thought that these points should be addressed. Brian Monk Bel Air MD