To add to what Tyler has said: http://www.losbird.org/los_news_181_98july.htm (scroll down to Kelp Gull and Herring X Kelp Gull hybrids: a new saga in gull ID problems) has the text of the note that appeared in LOS News last summer about the Kelp Gulls and hybrids in Louisiana. http://losbird.org/kelp.htm or http://www.losbird.org/kelp.htm has the illustration Tyler refers to below. There is a correction/addendum to the note that appears at http://losbird.org/los_news_182_98sept.htm (scroll down to WHOOPS! CORRECTION: Kelp and Herring X Kelp Gull Hybrids.) Best, Rob Hilton robert@csa.com Bethesda, MD At 01:09 PM 2/19/99 -0500, Tyler Bell wrote: >For those of you who are interested in ruling out the F1 hybrid >possibility, check out this web site: > >http://losbird.org/kelp.htm > >-- >Good Birding! The probability of a given >Tyler Bell event occurring is inversely >mailto:bell@say.acnatsci.org proportional to its desirability. >California, MD >http://www.audubon.org/chapter/md/smas/