Please allow a Pennsylvanian to offer a couple of points regarding Sunday hunting. They pertain to comments made by others; I won't quote the previous posts, because those following the debate should remember them. 1. Permitting Sunday hunting will not substantially lower the deer population. Here in Pennsylvania, well over half of the harvest during buck season is taken on opening day; last year I believe it approached 80%. That's opening day of a two-week (twelve days) season. Is there any reason to believe the statistics are much different in Maryland? And is there any reason to believe that tacking on one more day would make a difference that all those other intervening days couldn't make? The way to increase the deer harvest is to issue more second-kill permits, or perhaps to permit hunting methods that are otherwise outlawed. A drastic reduction could be achieved by issuing two permits to every hunter and allowing spotlighting and baiting, but we know that won't happen. Why? Because the hunting community doesn't want a reduction in the herd. Here, anyway, supplemental permits are issued with an eye toward maintaining the herd. If you want less deer pressure, then you need to lobby for a smaller herd, not a seventh day of hunting; if you convinced the appropriate authorities that the herd should be smaller, they would have no problem lowering deer numbers in a year or two. 2. Deer hunting is not very dangerous or otherwise problematic to birders. The person or people who made this point have obviously never tried to bird in real deer country. I can't offer statistics on this one, only the unsupported opinion, which I'm sure could be confirmed by many others, that on hunting days a birder just can't feel safe in good hunting territory. And although the problem is worse on land open to hunting, it's not entirely so limited. I live on 75 acres of prominently posted land that happens to support a lot of deer. Last opening day I found no fewer than seven hunters on this land. I certainly hope this experience was unusual, but it cannot be unique. Hunters get excited. They hunt where they shouldn't, they fire without noticing or even thinking about what's behind their target. They are required by law (in PA, anyway) to wear blaze orange, and every year some of them are shot anyway. How safe should a birder, dressed in dull colors and moving ever so slowly along brushy edges at dawn or dusk, feel when he knows hunters are about? Any suggestion that hunting is safer than other activities, say driving on the freeways, is utterly disingenuous. The world does fine with the hunting ban; like it or not, Sunday driving is a part of our culture and our economy that is not going away. The questions are entirely separate; society is not consistent in such matters. 3. A lot of birders do dislike hunting per se. We often hear from broad-minded birders, sometimes ex-hunters themselves, arguing that the two activities are not necessarily at odds. Maybe not, all things considered, but it's silly not to recognize that a lot of birders disagree with you. The point should not be that birders don't dislike hunters, but that even to the extent they do, the time is not ripe to focus on that part of the equation. When the day comes that we have a reasonable chance to ban hunting completely, then those who believe it is a barbarous vestige of a long-dead era can raise their voices; for now, the practical arguments about safety are a lot more politically palatable. Doug Couchman Cooperstown, PA atakdoug@csonline.net