Michael's reference to fearing crime in the woods is not unwarranted. A few years ago, birders were mugged up in Frederick County by a couple of teenagers who took watches, wallets, and binocs. Although that's the only incident I've heard of around here, I can tell you that I don't like to go out alone for fear of rape. A few years ago, when I was between my first career and the start of grad school, I had the luxury of birding during the week and I really loved it, except that I rapidly realized that no one knew where I was, I had no way of calling for help (no cell phones back then), and there were definitely other people out in the woods, although I rarely ran into another birder. I'm not a nervous nellie, I'm not paranoid about crime or rape, but it still seemed like a rather risky thing to be doing. In Venezuela, the ONLY fear we had was other people. Of course, in Venezuela, there was never anyone in the woods except other birders, and they were rare, too. But in places where we camped or in the little towns where we stayed, there were reasons to be concerned. For instance, we went to El Palmar (Eastern Venezuela) to see the Harpy Eagle nest in the Imataca Forest Reserve. After a night in the infamously crummy Hotel Taguapirre, listening to the gunshots of the drunken revelers at the military post next door, we met our guide and drove into the reserve. After a glorious few hours in the forest, including astonishingly magnificent views of the Harpy, we drove back out to take the guide home. Our car was swarmed with drunken people who were celebrating Christmas at the river. Our guide warned us not to return that day, because they would steal our equipment and car. In Sta. Helena, we had to pay someone to watch the car if we wanted to go off to El Pauji (accessible only by small plane). In fact, on our first day in Venezuela, while walking from the hotel that Venez Audubon sets you up in to the bank to get some cash, we were accosted by two children with broken bottles who wanted to take our binoculars. Ah, yes, Venezuela was so much fun! (but GREAT birds and lots of them....) Ellen -- Ellen Paul Executive Director The Ornithological Council Mailto:epaul@dclink.com Ornithological Council Website: http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET "Providing Scientific Information about Birds"