William, I could not help but respond to your post about Black-billed Cuckoo. My experience with them is that they are not reliable anywhere. This is because they don't always call (same with Yellow-billeds). If they are not calling, they can be right under your nose and you will never see one. I am no expert but this has been my experience ... Living in (and around) Frostburg for 4 years (or more), I have seen BBCU a number of times. Finzel does not stick out in my mind as the greatest spot but I am sure they could be there. I was a preserve monitor for Finzel for awhile and have been there a zillion times. In my recollection, I may or may not have seen them there. I definitely remember seeing one at the FSU arboretum (woods next to the track) a few times. Also near the top of Dan's Rock a few times. I found a BBCU nest at Cooper's Rock State Forest in WV in 1997. I conducted spot-mapping research there and nest-searching 20 hours per week (4 or 5 days). Prior to finding the nest I only heard birds calling 4 or 5 times. Chasing one that was reported may not be a bad idea but it may take patience and perseverence. Spring-time when birds are calling would be the best time. If you send me a direct e-mail request, I will print out a list of all the locations and the number of times I have seen BBCU's at each location from my personal birdwatching database. J.B. ====================================================== ___ _________/ \_________ Home (304) 292-5072 /- - - - - O O - - - - -\ Work (304) 293-4832 \________'\_v_/`________/ ext. 4456 /_|_|_\ ^ ^ John B. Churchill, M.S. GIS Analyst West Virginia University Natural Resources Analysis Center __ ______ \___/ \__^_ [ ) o\ `__]____)'--'* ]_ ]_ Support Evolution, ... destroy a weakling ! http://www.nrac.wvu.edu/users/jbc/ ======================================================