Greg is just wishfully thinking Jackdaw. Good Birding! Tyler Bell mailto:bell@acnatsci.org California, MD http://www.audubon.org/chapter/md/smas/ >>> Dona Patrick <donalp@surfree.com> 08/24/99 11:20AM >>> Greg, I think the crow is regular sized and I don't recall if the primaries were light gray. I will keep my eye open, it hangs around here quite a bit. (Why???) Dona Patrick Bethesda, MD donalp@surfree.com