TMD, Jaeger sp. is definitely notable and easily attributed to the storm. It'll make it in print at least. Not too heartening, but remember that negative data is good data. This will perhaps make a stronger case next time for you folks to get down to OC like I said!! :-) The "Northeast Qudrant" theory is holding true - and that is where you want to try to be. Kyle's birds are the exception. I still think there lower Bay is crawling with birds, but how to see em is a question. Smith I Ferry? YOU should think about researching that for Saturday. It leaves at 10:00 and costs $20. Nice trip. DAMN...I had the phone # somewhere but can't find it. You should be able to track it down. I just HOPE it runs Sat. If not get on the Sunday one! BETTER YET: Find out is the Smith Pt. VIRGINIA to Smith Island Ferry is running. If you can't find out through any other source call the Pt. Lookout Ferry which might know about the Smith Pt. one. I really do think you will see a movement of birds returning to the ocean/lost stragglers on that trip. Glad you covered North Beach. Stasz defected to OC. Still haven't heard if he's seen anything. Best, Marshall miliff@aol.com PS - slow here. some cool bugs.