Thank you George, Paul and Mark....and, of course, my apologies to Mark. I think it absolutely incredible that an individual could beat out the collective efforts of a VERY active group of birders. I did realize that the pelagic trips were important, but your posts show that they are almost essential. I still wish there was some way we could convince a tour operator or boat to leave from OC just twice a year. But after all the cancellations we have had ( I mean, really, we have been cancelled four of the last 5 trips and the trip that went was the first!), I can almost understand why someone would not want to take the chance economically. Still, last I looked there were some pretty big boats around in both OC and Lewes. Still hoping....... Fran -------------------------------- Fran Saunders Web Site Director Maryland Ornithological Society Silver Spring, Maryland webmaster@mdbirds.org http://www.MDBirds.org