Greg, Thanks a lot for the info. These 2 species seem to have subtle differences to me. I am glad I spotted the bill shape! Charlie As for the bill coloration, Elizabeth disagreed slightly with me, so the fact that it was diving may have something to do with that, but we're in agreement that it was yellow and not pale. The books I have don't show ANY loon to have the bill coloration I observed, so perhaps I got a glimmer at the wrong time, or perhaps this bird is slightly irregularly colored in that regard. Thanks again, Charlie --- Greg Miller <hawk-owl@yahoo.com> wrote: > Charlie, > > Regrettably, I didn't get a chance to go look > for the > Yellow-billed Loon last evening or this > morning. > Yesterday, my battery was dead and I was > without a > vehicle. > > Away from any books, I can't tell you which > guides > show that first year birds often have pale, > yellowish > bills, but always have dark coloration near the > tip, > particular on the culmen. The amount of gray > on the > bill varies widely. Some Common Loons will > show only > a small mark on the top of the tip of the bill. > The > pale bill can look very much like Yellow-billed > Loon > depending on lighting conditions. > > Next to a Common Loon, the Yellow-billed will > be > larger overall with a thicker neck, a different > shaped > head, and an awkwardly large bill that it > habitually > holds at an upward angle. > > I have not seen anything documenting dark > coloration > on any part of the bill on a Yellow-billed > Loon. If > anyone out there has writings to the contrary, > I'd be > most interested. > > -Greg Miller > Hollywood, MD > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at > http://auctions.yahoo.com > ===== ****************************** Charlie Muise, Naturalist Jug Bay Wetlands Sanctuary Maryland, USA cmmbirds@yahoo.com "Leave the gun; take the cannoli" ****************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com