OK, OK, OK, OK !!! You guys have just gone way too far with this "siskin" practical joke thing ... did my protestations just goad you on further? So, how did you do it? Puppets ? We could not see the strings ... Anamatronics? Is someone in cahoots with George Lucas on this one? Holographic? ... someone on MD_Osprey had mentioned this before "in jest" ... may that was really just "loose lips sinking ships", eh? Didn't you guys get wet out there this afternoon? Anyway, if I look at this objectively, I guess you are probably to be commended on your efforts to nearly pull off this elaborate hoax ... those two "siskins" on our feeders today <almost> seemed like they were real! Phil HAPPY Thanksgiving !!! ================================================ Phil Davis home: PDavis@ix.netcom.com Davidsonville, Maryland USA work: PDavis@OAO.com Greenbelt, Maryland USA ================================================