On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 GAIL@UMDD.UMD.EDU wrote: > In winter, Pine Grosbeaks should be looked for in abandoned orchards, > plantings of ornamental crabapples (esp. if the fruit is frozen), and > in rowan (Mountain Ash). They also sometimes come to feeders. I have > actually never found them in pines in winter (at least in Maine). Gail, For what its worth, the only Pine Grosbeaks I have seen in the East were a single species winter flock in conifers in NE Pennsylvania. The area is mostly Hemlock, but they were eating gravel from the road, so I do not know what tree species they were using. Dave David Mozurkewich Seabrook, MD USA dm@fornax.usno.navy.mil