Mdosprey Wilbur, Thanks for the post and the map. I can't really get a feel for the scale of the map you posted other than "small field" and the size of the trailer drawn. Are the perches you've marked visible from the road or is the property open to public use? Thanks, Jordan Wilkerson, Cloverly, MD ---------- From: Hershberger, Wilbur [SMTP:WHershbe@afrs.ars.usda.gov] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 10:18 AM To: 'mdosprey@ARI.Net' Subject: [MDOsprey] Northern shrike in Fred. Co. This morning I found the NORS that was reported by Jim and Marshall. See the site map at: http://cricketsong.tripod.com/NORSmap/index.html The "X" s on the map are perches that were used by the shrike during the time I was observing it. I could not find any Short-eared owls in the area unfortunately. Wilbur Fred. Co.