FOLKS!

I seem to to recall Norm strongly suggesting that we get off of this
security kick and get back to the birds.  As one who spent a career in the
military, I am as unqualified as any other veteran on this listserve to
discuss today's security situation.  Let's dispense with the crap and get
back to the birds.  And please display ruffled feathers privately.

Stan Arnold
Glen Burnie



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Teetz" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Security in Del.


> Frank,
>
> As a veteran of over 20 years in the Navy, I don't see where your service
> qualifies you to know that you know what you are talking about with
regards
> to security, homeland or otherwise.  Maybe you should limit your comments
to
> things that you know something about, and leave the policy to the
> professionals.
>
> I'll probably get bounced from the list for these comments, but I had to
> speak my mind.
>
> Bill
>
> .Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Boyle" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Security in Del.
>
>
> > As our infamous "Homeland Security" department couldn't secure their way
> out
> > of a paper bag,  I consider all this silly post 9/11 stuff utter and
> > complete nonsense.
> >
> > Before anyone shouts me down on this one, I'd like to point oput that
I'm
> a
> > 10-year veteran of the Army & Navy and I know what I'm talking about.
> >
> > Sheesh... birding was easier on the flight deck of my ship...
> >
> >
> > ******************************
> > Frank Boyle
> > Rohrersville, MD
> > 
> > ******************************
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Maryland Birds & Birding [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf Of Phil Davis
> > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 12:25 AM
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Security in Del.
> >
> > I'd rather see this thread entitled, "Security considerations in Del."
> It's
> > not nonsense!
> >
> > I hate to see birders lose birding opportunities due to national
security
> > considerations, but as someone pointed out ... Dover AFB has always been
a
> > sensitive installation. I was stopped and questioned looking for Uppies
> from
> > Rt 9 back after the first Iraq war. Normally, I suggest that people (or
> one
> > person) volunteer to see if something can be negotiated, or some type of
> > "birder registration program" be established, but in the case of this
AFB,
> > don't bother ... it's not going to happen.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > ==================================
> > Phil Davis      Davidsonville, Maryland     USA
> >                  mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > ==================================
> >
>