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Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:18:54 -0800

Hi,
   
  Well this is interesting, I have been befuddled about the chickadees where I live, which is southernmost AA county, on the bay - Rose Haven (North Beach). My chickadees are supposed to be carolinas but they all give black-capped songs and calls. I don't think I have heard any carolina chickadee songs (I will have to wait until spring again to be sure, I wasn't as keen a birder last spring)  could I be in a 'pocket' of black-capped? or ina population of hybrids that tend to Black capped calls?  They look like black-capped chickadees to me but they are very difficult to distinguish and I am something of a novice .  I will try to get some pictures....

Jim Stasz <> wrote:
  Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:52:39 -0500
From: Jim Stasz <>
Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Black-capped Chickadee Vocalizations Heard
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Hi Folks!

I applaud Bill's caution. There is a wonderful hybrid area where you can experience for yourself the pitfalls of chickadee identification. West of Hancock on I-68 is the exit for Woodmont. If you take this exit and go a few miles south onto Long Ridge [also a Maryland WMA], you will find a confusing array of plumages and songs. Marshall Iliff and I made our own field checklist that included Carolina Chickadee, Black-capped Chickadee, Hybid Carolina x Black-capped Chickadee and the inevitalble "chickadee sp.". Every bird on Long Ridgde that I have seen I have put into Hybid Carolina x Black-capped Chickadee. Individual birds may have the appearance of one of the species, but also have song and call repetoires that vary, with some indivudals giving Carolina song and Black-capped song and Carolina call notes and Black-capped call notes. 

Just a few miles west is Sidling Hill. I have not found anything by Black-capped Chickadees there. A few miles east you will discover that all of the chickadees and, by plumage and song and call, Carolina Chickadees.

Good Birding!

Jim

Jim Stasz
North Beach MD
 


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Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Black-capped Chickadee Vocalizations Heard


Bill Ellis wrote: 

>On Saturday afternoon, I heard the song of a Black-capped 
>Chickadee twice, and the call of a Black-capped Chickadee once, 
>in my neighbor's yard. There were no mockingbirds in the area, 
>nor any active birders. This is only an interesting observation, 
>since I believe that chickadees in the zone of overlap between 
>Carolina and Black-capped are known to exchange vocalizations, so 
>heard-only birds may not be reliably identified. I did not see 
>the bird(s). 
> 
>Bill Ellis 
>Eldersburg, MD 
> 
> > 
I have heard that in the overlap zone either species may learn to sing either or both songs, but calls are genetic and therefore more reliable. Of course if you get a hybrid individual all bets are off, but that applies to visual marks as well. Unfortuantely I don't have a direct reference for the information about calls, but the call has seemed reliable to me on birds that I have identified both visually and vocally. 

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