In the interests of showing how hard it is to distinguish between
Cackling Goose and Canada Goose, here is a summary with excerpts of
the varying comments I got from people who ventured to give an ID.
Thank you all. My apologies if I left anyone out or misrepresented
anybody's comments.
In the text below,
"Photo 1" is the first one I posted, at
http://birds.southernspreadwing.com/Cackling_Goose_maybe.jpg
"Photo 2" is the second one I posted, at
http://birds.southernspreadwing.com/Cackling_Goose_maybe_2.jpg
Here are two helpful websites explaining how to distinguish between
these birds. Be sure to scroll to the bottom of both sites, even if
you don't read all the text.
This site has graphs and a range map:
http://www.sibleyguides.com/canada_cackling.htm
This site has a nice summary table:
http://www.utahbirds.org/RecCom/NewGoose.htm
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June Tveekrem
Columbia, Howard Co, MD
tweekiebird AT toadmail DOT com
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Rick Hollis - North Liberty, IA and Westminster&Arbutus, MD
(from Photo 1) "Counting from the left, partial Canada, Cackling,
Canada, Cackling, Canada. I said Cackling based on bill shape and
relative size."
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Matt Hafner - Bel Air, MD
(from Photo 1) "2nd bird on the left looks very good for Cackling
Goose. Also the bird 2nd from the right is possibly as well. It is
a little larger, but the head and bill shape look right. I can't be
sure [about the bird on the right] from the one photo though."
(from Photo 2) "I think this photo confirms that they are both
Cacklers."
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Ed Boyd - Westminster, MD
(from Photo 1) "The second goose in from the edge is a Cackling
Goose - and it doesn't matter which edge you start from. There are
two of them in the photo."
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Bob Moul - Adams County, PA
(from Photo 1) Said he had found and photographed a goose last week
in PA that looked "identical in bill shape, length and overall size"
to the bird in my photo. He posted his photos "to several birding
lists. The majority thought it was definitely a Richardson's
Cackling Goose (Branta hutchinsii hutchinsii)."
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Jo Solem - Laurel, MD
(from Photo 1) "My sense is that [the bird 2nd from the left] is a
"runt" Canada and not a Cackling Goose. It does have a shorter neck
and smaller bill than adjacent geese but the head is not blocky, the
back is not paler (grayer) than our regular Canadas, and although
small I'm not sure it is really that much smaller than the others.
Centennial has a history of having smallish Canadas which are not
other species."
(from Photo 2) Verbal comment that both look like Cackling Geese
because photo shows blocky head shape of goose in the right
foreground, and grayer back color of goose in the left foreground.
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Joe Hanfman - Columbia, MD
(from Photo 1) "The second goose from the left looks like a Cackling
Goose to me. The second goose from the right looks like a small race
of Canada Goose. There has been a small Canada Goose at Centennial
Lake for the last couple of years."
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Hans Holbrook - Baltimore, MD
(from Photo 2) "I would have to agree with Ed Boyd, that both geese
are Richardson's Geese. Note the overall gray coloration of the back
compared to the near-by Canada Geese. When I am scanning flocks of
geese for Richardson's, I actually am looking for overall coloration
of the bird. I look at size and shape afterwards. I guess what I am
saying is that overall coloration is a huge indicator coupled with
size and shape and you got it."
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Gail Mackiernan - Colesville, MD
(from Photo 2) "Definitely [two] Cacklers."
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Jay Keller - Arlington, VA
(from Photo 2) "I would say that the right bird looks good for
Richardson's Cackling, while the one on the left is somewhat
suspect, despite the size."
I think it's worth showing his entire text because of the detailed
description.
"We have a lot to learn about what is definitive for Cackling vs
parvipes (Lesser Canada Goose), but from my experience I would say
that the right bird looks good for hutchinsii (Richardson's
Cackling) while the one on the left is somewhat suspect, despite the
size. Size alone should never be used to determine parvipes vs
hutchinsii, as there is considerable overlap between them. The bill
is suspect in the left bird in my opinion because it is quite long
and gradually sloping - a characteristic of Canada Goose. It might
very well be a Cackling, but I am not comfortable with the
structure. However, the bill on the right bird appears quite
triangular and blunt, and has the fairly steep angle from crown to
culmen as well as a hard rear crown angle and other
structural/plumage features typical of hutchinsii. I always like to
see the birds in life to be 100% sure, however."
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