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Re: Kingbird stuff (long)

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Phil Davis

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Phil Davis

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Tue, 2 Jan 2007 02:02:25 -0500

Rick, et al.

Rick Sussman asked if the NY Tyrannus flycatcher 
ID was ever resolved. The answer is ... well, 
yes, and no ... the NY Records Committee accepted 
it as a "Tyrannus flycatcher." The text from 
their decision report 
(http://www.nybirds.org/NYSARC/Reports/NYSARC2003.html) is pasted, below.

FYI, as an aside ...  in Maryland, our MD/DCRC 
procedures would preclude us from accepting this 
bird as "Tyrannus, sp." since other members of 
the Tyrannus genus are not reviewable species in 
Maryland (i.e., Eastern and Western Kingbirds); 
however, the committee could, theoretically and 
if necessary, accept it as a species member of 
some defined group, such as the "Tropical/Couch's Kingbird complex."

A good question!

Hope this helps ...

Phil


  Tyrannus flycatcher
2003-60-A River Rd, Town of Leicester, Livingston, (Robert Spahn) 17-25 Nov.
Gary Chapin discovered this Tyrannus flycatcher 
hawking insects from the fence running along 
Chandler Road near Geneseo. The bird remained in 
the area until 2 Dec and was viewed and/or 
photographed by many people. Only one report was 
received and this is extremely unfortunate 
because the identification proved controversial 
and ultimately very interesting. In his initial 
internet posting, Chapin identified the bird as a 
Western Kingbird (T. verticalis), citing the 
yellow underparts and white outer feathers seen 
when the bird landed. A week later, Willie D’Anna 
saw and digiscoped the kingbird at this same 
locality but after studying his photos, D’Anna 
raised some questions about the identification. 
In particular, the relatively heavy bill, 
extensively yellow upper breast and green hints 
on the mantle pointed away from Western Kingbird. 
The arrangement of feathers in the tail was also 
unusual and initially interpreted as active molt. 
The vocalizations D’Anna heard corresponded to a 
very loud sharp single-syllabled call and in an 
internet posting, Matt Victoria stated that he 
heard the bird give a distinct “WICK!” call 
several times. This is consistent with Western or 
perhaps Couch’s Kingbird (T. couchii) but seemed 
to exclude Tropical Kingbird (T. melancholicus). 
The photos were posted on Angus Wilson’s web site 
(www.oceanwanderers.com) and discussed 
extensively on ID-Frontiers. Whilst many expert 
commentators felt the bird more closely resembled 
a Couch’s or Tropical rather than Western, others 
felt that these species were not quite right 
either. A short way into the debate, Bruce 
Anderson of Winter Park, Florida made the 
insightful observation that this might in fact be 
a hybrid between Western Kingbird and 
Scissor-tailed Flycatcher (T. forficatus), a 
known hybrid combination (Tyler and Parkes 1992, 
Regosin 1998). This idea gained favor, and Kevin 
McGowan and Bob Spahn, both of whom studied the 
bird in life, developed a robust argument in 
support of a somewhat different hybrid 
hypothesis. These authors concluded that the most 
likely parentage was in fact a hybrid between 
Couch’s Kingbird and Scissor-tailed 
Flycatcher—potentially the first example of this 
combination (McGowan and Spahn 2004). Their 
thoughtful and informative analysis of the 
plumage and structural details is highly 
recommended. The breeding range of the two 
species overlaps narrowly in southern Texas and 
northern Mexico and the two species are known to 
form mixed flocks at times. An important lesson 
from this fascinating bird is that identification 
of scarce or rare species needs to be made with 
great care. Not only is it important to use a 
suite of positive characters but also to heed aspects that don’t quite fit.


>In a message dated 12/29/2006 8:24:44 PM Eastern 
>Standard Time, Phil Davis writes:
>Here's a problematic tryannus from New York in 2003, probably NOT a
>Tropical ...
>
>          http://www.oceanwanderers.com/NYTyrannus.html

At 08:45 12/30/2006, Rick Sussman wrote:
Phil and all,
  Hopefully "our" bird won't cause this many 
problems. The discussions sent in to Angus after 
the photos were both enlightening and 
unenlightening! Be glad you weren't part of the 
NY records committee. Was this bird ID ever resolved?


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