In case anyone wants to follow the discussion on this hummer, you can access the Virginia Birding listserve at

http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/VABD.html

Incidentally, i long ago set my MDOsprey subscription to NOMAIL and follow the postings at 

http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/MDOS.html#1132583725

this keeps my inbox a little less full and also makes it less likely that i will pop off a quick response that i might later regret...

Jim (Michael) Speicher
jugornought—at—yahoo-dot-com
Bethesda @work :(
Broad Run_S. FRED Co @home :)