Sorry, I was rushed last night

Thought it was bullocks because it had blackish eyeline black lores  
back throat

Median covert bar very thick bold white

Greater coverts with narrow white bar and white edging

2 pm today still not seen no orioles in last hour

Thanks George I "carefully" had camera in pack yesterday

Birdflew as I was getting camera out

Dave Czaplak
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Rick Sussman <> wrote:

> Also for the record, I never had any doubt about Dave's ID of the  
> bird. My concern was getting a handle on what this paticular bird  
> looked like and how it looked different than a Baltimore. The  
> illustrations I have looked at are sort of confusing and I hope(d)  
> with some guidance from him, I could better understand the  
> differences. I have never seen a Bullock's Oriole in any plumage so  
> I was just looking for help, not bringing into question the validity  
> of the sighting.
>
> Rick Sussman
> Woodbine,MD
>
>
> Look at the Sibley page 519 of the 2000 edition.
>
> For the record Dave Czaplak is one of the most careful birders I  
> know, and if he reported a Bullock's and I had the time, I would  
> chase it.
>
> George
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George M. Jett <>
> To: 
> Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 11:54 am
> Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Bullock's Oriole in Montgomery
>
>
> Look at the Sibley page 519 of the 2000 edition.
>
> For the record Dave Czaplak is one of the most careful birders I  
> know, and if he reported a Bullock's and I had the time, I would  
> chase it.
>
> George
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Sussman" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Bullock's Oriole in Montgomery
>
> Hmmm, seems an odd time of year to be brushing up on my orioles, but  
> given the rather confusing plumage illustrations in the NatGeo  
> guide, which shows immature Baltimores can have a dark patch under  
> the bill (as well as George's description of that being a feature of  
> 1st yr male Bullocks), and the note that Bullock's is a casual  
> vagrant to the East, "most reports are of dull immature  
> Baltimores" (National Geographic 5th edition), and given the fact  
> that Stan et al have already this morning seen 3 Baltimores, well...
>
> At any rate, I hope it hangs out till at least Friday, when I might  
> have time for a chase!
>
> Rick Sussman
> Woodbine,MD
>
> Dave can explain how he identified the bird in the field yesterday,  
> but in the mean time on Bullock's females the underwing coverts are  
> gray (grey for you Brits). Baltimore male and female underwing  
> coverts would be pale yellow this time of year. The male Bullock's  
> has black tips in the tail. Baltimore male don't have the black tail  
> tips. The head on the Baltimore would also be darker but this might  
> be hard to see in the field. The Bullock's has a lighter grayer  
> back. First year male Bullock's should have a dark patch under the  
> bill like a first year male Orchard.
>
> George
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George M. Jett <>
> To: 
> Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 10:56 am
> Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Bullock's Oriole in Montgomery
>
> Folks
>
> Dave can explain how he identified the bird in the field yesterday,  
> but in the mean time on Bullock's females the underwing coverts are  
> gray (grey for you Brits). Baltimore male and female underwing  
> coverts would be pale yellow this time of year. The male Bullock's  
> has black tips in the tail. Baltimore male don't have the black tail  
> tips. The head on the Baltimore would also be darker but this might  
> be hard to see in the field. The Bullock's has a lighter grayer  
> back. First year male Bullock's should have a dark patch under the  
> bill like a first year male Orchard.
>
> George
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Sussman" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Bullock's Oriole in Montgomery
>
> Hi Dave,
> Could you post a brief description of the bird, please. How did it  
> differ from, say, a fall immature male Baltimore Oriole? I've never  
> seen one, so would be interested in what to look for (not that there  
> might be another oriole in the same area, but you never know.).  
> Thanks,
>
> Rick Sussman
> Woodbine,MD
>
> At 3:30 today I briefly observed an immature male Bullock's Oriole at
> ycamore Landing.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Ann Todd <>
> To: 
> Sent: Tue, Nov 24, 2009 6:56 pm
> Subject: [MDOSPREY] Bullock's Oriole in Montgomery
>
> At 3:30 today I briefly observed an immature male Bullock's Oriole at
> ycamore Landing.
>
> rom the parking lot at the end of Sycamore Landing Road walk  
> upstream on
> he towpath about 1/3 mile to where the last McKee-Besher field ends  
> and the
> urf farm begins. The bird was about 50yds beyond this point, feeding  
> in the
> all trees between the towpath and the turf farm. There are many tall  
> trees
> ere with small dark fruit (Cherries?) Hordes of Robins, Waxwings,
> tarlings and a few Purps were feeding here. The oriole was loosely  
> associated
> ith
> hese feeding flocks. After a minute it flew diagonally across the  
> turf farm
> nd into the tree row separating the last McKee-Besher field from the  
> turf
> arm, then a bit farther and out of sight. I watched these trees for  
> the
> ext half hour but did not see the bird again. The last field (which  
> is west of
> ycamore Landing Road and adjacent the parking area) is divided by  
> three
> ong hedge rows having lots of cover and berries. When I was there  
> the center
> f feeding activity seemed to be the row of trees and fruit running  
> north
> long the east edge of the turf farm. In past years I have seen  
> Baltimore
> rioles in this area a few times through December.
>
> ndy Martin reminded me to check the firearm season for deer, which  
> opens
> his Saturday. There is bow hunting going on now, I think.
>
> ave Czaplak
> ermantown MD