Personally, I don't see that as being necessary at this point, and
fear it might actually create problems that we don't have now.  I'm
not aware of a single birder who has encountered a problem this year,
and the volume of birders visiting the pond for the Ross's Goose has
quite likely passed its peak.  A resident came up to me last year when
I was on the one lane road (which by the way has no sign indicating
it's private or restricted) and not only had no problem with me being
there, but asked questions about identifying ducks.  We all want to
maintain access (county listers need the site just as much as locals
do).  Just use common sense and be considerate.  I think the main
thing to avoid is driving on the one lane road.

Jim Moore
Rockville, MD

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Ross Geredien <> wrote:
> With the recent question raised about the residents' sensitivity to birders accessing the private drive at Kirshner's Pond, I'm wondering if it might be wise for someone who either lives locally, perhaps member or officer of the Frederick Bird Club, or other active member of the birding community who has the time and capacity, to make contact with the residents and learn what they are comfortable with?  It has been raised that some local birders are afraid of losing access to this site all together if the landowners become uncomfortable with birders' behavior.  It might be very informative to learn, for example, if they don't want anyone walking along the private drive, stepping on the grass, etc.  It might bode well also for someone to explain just what is going on, why the sudden interest, etc and sort of "represent" the birding community to them, and also explain that any concerns or explicit instructions they may have would be communicated to the
>  birding community.
>
> I know there are several active birders out there with expertise in these types of diplomatic relations, as they have done well in facilitating access to several feeder rarities over the last year.  I'm wondering if some similar, albeit scaled-down version of this process could be put into place in this situation?  Realizing, of course, that we may be limited as to who is geographically proximate enough to the sighting to take this on.  No expectations, just putting the suggestion out there.
>
> Ross Geredien
> Edgewater/Annapolis
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