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Fw: [BIRDWG01] The thorny problem of GREEN-WINGED TEAL identification

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Mark L Hoffman

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Sat, 3 Mar 2012 01:25:46 +0000

Given the multiple recent reports (mine included) of "Common Teal" in Maryland I thought this thread from ID-Frontiers would be of some interest.  Notable that this has been a big year for them in Newfoundland.  
 
M. Hoffman 
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Subject: Re: [BIRDWG01] The thorny problem of GREEN-WINGED TEAL identification 
 
In St. John’s, Newfoundland we annually  have a dozen or two overwintering 
teal more or less equally divided up between Common Teal and Green-winged 
Teal.  In an exceptional winter like 2010/2011 there were four times more 
Common Teal (50+ individuals) than Green-winged Teal.   Over all there far 
more Common Teal occurring in eastern Newfoundland than observed elsewhere 
in eastern North America.   In my four + decades of birding in eastern 
Newfoundland I’ve only once seen a male teal suspected of being a hybrid 
Common X Green-winged Teal.  It had a blurred, dulled out white vertical and 
horizontal bar. The vertical bar was stronger than the horizontal bar but 
neither bar was as crisp white as a purebred.   
 
  
 
This being said I’ve seen drake Common Teal in St John’s area joining 
bachelor flocks of dabbling ducks in late May that one would normally 
presumed bred locally. Did they breed locally??? 
 
  
 
The teal in the photo could be a hybrid. The gray horizontal stripe is 
faded compared to the vertical stripe. The white border on the green face 
patch is suggestive of Common Teal but is actually within range of 
Green-winged Teal. 
 
  
 
Unlike the Alaskan vs Russian coast I think there are few chances for 
Green-winged x Common Teal  to be happening in the North Atlantic.    
 
  
 
  
 
B. Mactavish 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
http://uk400clubrarebirdalert.blogspot.com/2012/03/variability-in-north-amer 
ican-green.html 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
From: NBHC ID-FRONTIERS Frontiers of Field Identification 
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Sent: March-02-12 8:02 PM 
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Subject: [BIRDWG01] The thorny problem of GREEN-WINGED TEAL identification 
 
  
 
Of late, I have been sent images of or have seen in the flesh a number of 
'ropey' North American Green-winged Teals in Britain - that is, individual 
drakes that just don't quite cut the mustard.... 
 
  
 
I saw one such individual today, a drake that has moved between sites this 
winter - see my blog entry at 
http://uk400clubrarebirdalert.blogspot.com/2012/03/variability-in-north-amer 
ican-green.html 
 
  
 
This bird had perfect white vertical stripes but had a hint of a pale 
horizontal stripe and some rimming/bordering on the green facial area, 
perhaps indicative of an intergrade 
 
  
 
Birds of this type are becoming the norm on this side of the Atlantic 
lately, begging me to ask whether this is within the natural variation of 
carolinensis or indicative that generations of European birds are 
hybridising following the vagrancy of some pure North American individuals. 
 
  
 
Reading David Sibley's excellent article, it seems that birds like this are 
simply deemed 'hybrids' but frustratingly many such birds here are just 
generally accepted and filed away as 'Green-winged Teals''. Has anyone a 
view on this? Should I be more robust with records of this species and only 
accept pristine examples or allow some leeway and only reject clear hybrids. 
Any guidance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.  
 
  
 
 
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