RE: MDOSPREY posts
Felton, Gary L. (glf1@cdc.gov)
Sat, 7 Feb 1998 14:35:35 -0500
Darius, thank you for a very sensible explanation of this matter and one
that puts things into proper perspective, which up till now, hadn't been
done. Perhaps if MDOSPREY had somewhat of a charter similar to
birdchat's, that explained what was acceptable, then this controversy
wouldn't have arisen to begin with. The fact that certain posts of a
personal nature were totally acceptable, came as a complete
surprise to not only me, but apparently others also. But, thank you
again for a very sensible explanation. And one that I might add, was
sorely needed.
Gary
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darius Ecker [SMTP:dariuse@abs.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 1998 6:13 AM
> To: 'mdosprey@ARI.Net'; 'Saunders, Norm'
> Subject: RE: MDOSPREY posts
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> To understand this, you had to have belonged to the "Old" Osprey's
> Nest. In the old bulletin board system, you had to do something extra
> to make a message private. Posting to "ALL" was the default. Not many
> people would do the extra step to make a message private, so a culture
> evolved where semi-personal messages were posted to "ALL".
>
> Now, I don't believe anyone would talk about his prostate operation to
> the entire TON (TON is the old short abbreviation for "The Osprey's
> Nest"), but a short message to one or two people about an upcoming
> birding expedition was certainly acceptable. Actually, there was even
> a lot of positive interaction that developed because of this. For
> instance, someone else who read the message might respond and say,
> "Hey, can I come along !". And most of the time this type of response
> is welcomed. It's this type of interaction that us long term Osprey
> Nesters (me included) don't want to see go away.
>
> Norm finances this out of his own pocket, so I think we should at
> least honor his wishes for what he wants MDOSPREY to become. After
> all, it's his nickel.
>
> I hope to bump into in the field sometime soon, perhaps Arizona ?
>
> Good Birding,
>
> Darius.
>
>
> ----------
> From: Felton, Gary L.[SMTP:glf1@cdc.gov]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 1998 8:43 PM
> To: mdosprey@ARI.Net
> Subject: MDOSPREY posts
>
>
> > I agree with Peter Robinson on this and mine was one of the
> posts that
> > Norm refered to in his initial post regarding this matter.
> And quite
> > frankly, I was surprised that my suggestion was met with such
> ire.
> > My suggestion was in no way an attempt to censure anyone's
> opinion,
> > comments, advice, sentiments, levity, light chit-chat or
> anything bird
> > related as long as they have at least some relative bearing or
> > signifigance to the group as a whole. But, for instance, if
> John Doe
> > has plans to bird only with Bill Smith on Saturday and he
> decides to
> > call Bill Friday evening to confirm the arrangement, then it
> would
> > make no sense whatsoever to call fifty other people and turn
> it into
> > a conference call when it concerns no one other than John and
> Bill
> > exclusively. Unless that is, if John and Bill are informally
> letting
> > everyone know that anyone else that wants to show up and bird
> with
> > them is welcome. But most of these type of purely personal
> > correspondence posts are the same as turning a personal phone
> call
> > into a conference call among 50 to 100 individuals. But,
> based on the
> > majority of sentiments I am seeing this seems to be acceptable
> to and
> > actually welcomed by most.
> >
> >
> > Gary Felton
> > Rowlesburg, WV
> > GLF1@CDC.GOV
> >
> >
> > Joe --
> >
> > I'm not trying to pick on you or anyone else personaly, but
> the
> > message
> > below that I just read has reminded me that there seems to be
> MANY
> > messages posted on mdosprey that are really personal messages
> to one
> > or
> > two people, that it seems should be sent directly to those
> people, not
> >
> > to the entire listserve group. I've resisted making this
> comment for
> > weeks, thinking that the "newness" of mdosprey was the reason,
> but it
> > seems to be continuing.
> >
> > Is anyone else of the same opinion, or am I the only one?
> >
> > Peter Robinson
> > peterrobins@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > To: mdosprey@ARI.Net
> > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:03:19 -0500
> > Subject: info request
> > From: halpinj@juno.com (Joseph j Halpin)
> > Reply-To: mdosprey@ARI.Net
> >
> > To: Les Eastman and Ric Blom
> >
> > Paul Dumont, who is leading the ANS/MOS birding trip mid
> February,
> > wants
> > to phone you before the trip. If you agree, you can provide
> your
> > phones
> > numbers to me and I will forward them to Paul. Paul is not an
> > internet/computer user.
> >
> > Joe Halpin
> > Silver Spring, MD
> > email: halpinj @juno.com
> >
> >
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