Again, I would like to request that persons posting give their first and last name so those of us reading don't have to 'guess' who sent the message. Cheers, Kathy Klimkiewicz ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: MDOSPREY posts Author: mdosprey@ARI.Net at NBS-Internet-Gateway Date: 2/7/98 2:35 PM Darius, thank you for a very sensible explanation of this matter and one that puts things into proper perspective, which up till now, hadn't been done. Perhaps if MDOSPREY had somewhat of a charter similar to birdchat's, that explained what was acceptable, then this controversy wouldn't have arisen to begin with. The fact that certain posts of a personal nature were totally acceptable, came as a complete surprise to not only me, but apparently others also. But, thank you again for a very sensible explanation. And one that I might add, was sorely needed. Gary > -----Original Message----- > From: Darius Ecker [SMTP:dariuse@abs.net] > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 1998 6:13 AM > To: 'mdosprey@ARI.Net'; 'Saunders, Norm' > Subject: RE: MDOSPREY posts > > Hi Gary, > > To understand this, you had to have belonged to the "Old" Osprey's > Nest. In the old bulletin board system, you had to do something extra > to make a message private. Posting to "ALL" was the default. Not many > people would do the extra step to make a message private, so a culture > evolved where semi-personal messages were posted to "ALL". > > Now, I don't believe anyone would talk about his prostate operation to > the entire TON (TON is the old short abbreviation for "The Osprey's > Nest"), but a short message to one or two people about an upcoming > birding expedition was certainly acceptable. Actually, there was even > a lot of positive interaction that developed because of this. For > instance, someone else who read the message might respond and say, > "Hey, can I come along !". And most of the time this type of response > is welcomed. It's this type of interaction that us long term Osprey > Nesters (me included) don't want to see go away. > > Norm finances this out of his own pocket, so I think we should at > least honor his wishes for what he wants MDOSPREY to become. After > all, it's his nickel. > > I hope to bump into in the field sometime soon, perhaps Arizona ? > > Good Birding, > > Darius. > > > ---------- > From: Felton, Gary L.[SMTP:glf1@cdc.gov] > Sent: Friday, February 06, 1998 8:43 PM > To: mdosprey@ARI.Net > Subject: MDOSPREY posts > > > > I agree with Peter Robinson on this and mine was one of the > posts that > > Norm refered to in his initial post regarding this matter. > And quite > > frankly, I was surprised that my suggestion was met with such > ire. > > My suggestion was in no way an attempt to censure anyone's > opinion, > > comments, advice, sentiments, levity, light chit-chat or > anything bird > > related as long as they have at least some relative bearing or > > signifigance to the group as a whole. But, for instance, if > John Doe > > has plans to bird only with Bill Smith on Saturday and he > decides to > > call Bill Friday evening to confirm the arrangement, then it > would > > make no sense whatsoever to call fifty other people and turn > it into > > a conference call when it concerns no one other than John and > Bill > > exclusively. Unless that is, if John and Bill are informally > letting > > everyone know that anyone else that wants to show up and bird > with > > them is welcome. But most of these type of purely personal > > correspondence posts are the same as turning a personal phone > call > > into a conference call among 50 to 100 individuals. But, > based on the > > majority of sentiments I am seeing this seems to be acceptable > to and > > actually welcomed by most. > > > > > > Gary Felton > > Rowlesburg, WV > > GLF1@CDC.GOV > > > > > > Joe -- > > > > I'm not trying to pick on you or anyone else personaly, but > the > > message > > below that I just read has reminded me that there seems to be > MANY > > messages posted on mdosprey that are really personal messages > to one > > or > > two people, that it seems should be sent directly to those > people, not > > > > to the entire listserve group. I've resisted making this > comment for > > weeks, thinking that the "newness" of mdosprey was the reason, > but it > > seems to be continuing. > > > > Is anyone else of the same opinion, or am I the only one? > > > > Peter Robinson > > peterrobins@hotmail.com > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > To: mdosprey@ARI.Net > > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:03:19 -0500 > > Subject: info request > > From: halpinj@juno.com (Joseph j Halpin) > > Reply-To: mdosprey@ARI.Net > > > > To: Les Eastman and Ric Blom > > > > Paul Dumont, who is leading the ANS/MOS birding trip mid > February, > > wants > > to phone you before the trip. If you agree, you can provide > your > > phones > > numbers to me and I will forward them to Paul. Paul is not an > > internet/computer user. > > > > Joe Halpin > > Silver Spring, MD > > email: halpinj @juno.com > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet > e-mail. > > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >