------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3BD3.A3AE76A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kathy, Well, I'm assuming Jim's statement was based on the photos he observed = taken by Mark Hoffman. As I recall, Mark took those photos (226 I = believe) in the company of lots of Maryland's best birders. I trust he = was on the right bird, and that he wouldn't have taken 226 photos of the = wrong bird. I'm sure Mark can supply the date and time his photos were = taken. I interpreted Jim's statement to mean the photos he observed were = a "Ring-billed".=20 I agree with you that the evidence of the original observer should be = examined, especially if this evidence includes photos. I know there is = reluctance to release this to anyone beyond the records committee, but = I'd like to challenge the original observers to open it up to others. = There are lots of us that saw the proposed Conowingo "Common Gull", or a = bird we were told was the proposed Conowingo "Common Gull" and had = serious doubts about it's Id. We'd love to know if the original bird = just flew away and never came back.=20 Good Birding, Darius Ecker (dariuse@abs.net) Columbia, Maryland ---------- From: Kathy Klimkiewicz[SMTP:Kathy_Klimkiewicz@usgs.gov] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 1:14 PM To: mdosprey@ARI.Net Subject: Re[4]: The Conowingo Gull and the Records Committee I agree but again feel that no one should emphatically state that=20 'this bird cannot be a Common Gull' when they have not even seen = any=20 documentation from the person(s) who first saw the bird in = question.=20 Everyone is entitled to their opinion and, yes, I most certainly = agree=20 that everyones' life list is their own. =20 Cheers, Kathy Klimkiewicz ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3BD3.A3AE76A0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhQXAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG AAwBAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAD8AAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABtZG9zcHJleUBBUkkuTmV0AFNNVFAAbWRvc3ByZXlAQVJJLk5ldAAAHgACMAEAAAAF AAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAAMwAQAAABEAAABtZG9zcHJleUBBUkkuTmV0AAAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYA AAAeAAEwAQAAABMAAAAnbWRvc3ByZXlAQVJJLk5ldCcAAAIBCzABAAAAFgAAAFNNVFA6TURPU1BS RVlAQVJJLk5FVAAAAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAADCSwBCIAHABgAAABJ UE0uTWljcm9zb2Z0IE1haWwuTm90ZQAxCAEEgAEAOAAAAFJFOiBSZVs0XTogVGhlIENvbm93aW5n byBHdWxsIGFuZCB0aGUgUmVjb3JkcyBDb21taXR0ZWUAAxMBBYADAA4AAADOBwIAEQASACgACAAC ACwBASCAAwAOAAAAzgcCABEAEgAUAC4AAgA+AQEJgAEAIQAAADZDNTAxRjE2QzJBN0QxMTFBMDFB MDA0MDA1MzU1Nzk1AM4GAQOQBgD0BgAAEgAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMANgAA AAAAQAA5AAA6gGH9O70BHgBwAAEAAAA4AAAAUkU6IFJlWzRdOiBUaGUgQ29ub3dpbmdvIEd1bGwg YW5kIHRoZSBSZWNvcmRzIENvbW1pdHRlZQACAXEAAQAAABYAAAABvTv9YYAWH1Btp8IR0aAaAEAF NVeVAAAeAB4MAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AHwwBAAAAEAAAAGRhcml1c2VAYWJzLm5ldAADAAYQ XgC+RwMABxD/BAAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAASElLQVRIWSxXRUxMLElNQVNTVU1JTkdKSU1TU1RBVEVN RU5UV0FTQkFTRURPTlRIRVBIT1RPU0hFT0JTRVJWRURUQUtFTkJZTUFSS0hPRkZNQU5BU0lSRUNB TEwsTUFSS1RPTwAAAAACAQkQAQAAAF0FAABZBQAAOQkAAExaRnW0koR7/wAKAQ8CFQKoBesCgwBQ AvIJAgBjaArAc2V0MjcGAAbDAoMyA8UCAHByQnER4nN0ZW0CgzN3AuQHEwKAfQqACM8J2TvxFg8y NTUCgAqBDbELYOBuZzEwMxRQCwoUUQUL8mMAQCBIaSBLYGF0aHksCoUKhVcAZWxsLCBJJ20kIGEE EHVtC4BnIPpKB3AnBCATwBswE+AJ8GUFQHcdACBiHQAJgCAFAiAgG0BlIHBob0x0bwQgH3FvYhGw crZ2HwEBkGsJ8B7AeQXQNQrAaxrgbw3QA4EuINMUsAQgSSAWEGMHQByReyFjH9BvI1EfsBGwH5Yo 6DIyNiJxYhxwCJAgkFwpIAuAH1MFoG0KsG7rIUAhwCAVoHQEICaBIWF6eRjxZB3BJQATwB7AaRsL IASQcyIgIoB0cnWfKAEfcR6SHzUFEGdoKBQ/HKAngR9RGzApMwhgbGT0bicpIWEgkCDFJKIfpfsm gR9idwNgHWEoMiihHNG/HSAWECFUIsADoB0gcAtQ+yFAH2JkHhEq1AdxIAAEAH0flncEkCxlKKIL gBPQct8TUBHAHwEdnh/QIAeAA5GHH28gdDIjYSAiUh1R7i0oMByACYAiIiAbjCKAlmEJwh6AaRtA IHkIYJcrFDVCJUBpDbBuYyAhfy2kBbAqMAuAB0AgNgXAc881kCvBJPE6gHhhHUEJgPscoAeQcAWQ BzEwIQaQNTH3MYE6lwuAYwpADbAxliIh8SKAa25vB+A1QS8hMYH7FhAKQGMBkDriNMFB0TUA/yPx PtM0wSZBAiA1YCUAQ9H3KwIqAQWSZAQgJgEdQAJA8wngHKBidQVAHMAfECUg/yDwNLIRcTehGRBD Ejt/KHHdNLJvPhADoDmAIC/wSQP7QUJAklRBUwrANWAmtikAuSsUc2FBIzVwA2BwI+HfHxAIUEEB HVE00CIIUEVw5R8xRyvAbCIcoAWxNwD/KDIyETIVBvA2kR6hTJ9Nr99OsCrTEYAfECBhaQhgBCD6 ZAhgYibRAaAIYAVAOYDdHcFJLpEcUUZSbyxSNNDvQPM+o0fJT0NqKQIY4AfR/UxgYSFAKuI9oDxy IsAxQWke0GNrN/5HI4AfEEJXKEEdURt9RArAaUvRRZtZ0DyBKDCQXMJlQAGg8yiQPaB0KRuMCFAK QAbQPwcwIwMnYxuMCvQlIDE4gjAC0WktMTQ0DfDnDNBiYwtZMTYKoANgE9D5QhAgLWSHCodjOwww ZAb6RgNhOmWOZAYMghsUGxAZJSBtawiQA/BjelugU01UUDobI19pqZpAKQBnKJBN0HZdZS9fZj0G YAIwZ29oe1QKUHNnMJAbYGcQZWIo8CdBIIQxNxygMTk5OHGQYjpiYCBQTWxvZj1Udm9ur2h7bVPw PgAWEHmgQEFSSS4HwHRyrzttflQQamRBdM9oe1Jl+Fs0XXoQSrFRaU6CKtV/NWB78ET0ThJFk2CP YZMz/jZjBxpFZAaCEzj2RgI5EP8LcVgQCeADICsjQQAfITVg/zy1E+A1gBswaiA+Ux3zKxT/CoWC EywAMXJPQy+hQQAoEfs24k4ZJx6ANVA1IyFALDN/iDIlQS/BCeFDooaLU/Bj/x0wHlGFUR8xA1I1 NChxAiD8KHMlcImQNNBiMBGgTDh7T0MlkXFwkYzyN/eCE0X/PHFD0z7yAjA5gDexNLI1Qb8oQEkx C4CNAieBHKB5B5D/HKE04B/gBUA68AAgC3EwId85FIaaKyNZEkPSc4lwJSDfg5BGcSgBQ1KTBHci EIaa/YaaQzVQKHEbdoITaU9/Ly+AP4FMCoUVMQCggAAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAABAAAcwQPHb rPo7vQFAAAgwQPHbrPo7vQEeAD0AAQAAAAUAAABSRTogAAAAADoY ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3BD3.A3AE76A0--