Ellen, Having grown up in East Baltimore County, yes, Dundalk, I can assure you that they certainly are a different type of people. The only ones who will be redeemed are those who are born-again birders. I reveal this bit of information realizing I run the risk of having my mdosprey subscription revoked, and that none of birding friends will acknowledge they know me now. Paula Ecker Now of Columbia, MD Paulae2156@aol.com