Norm Saunders wrote: <Peter, Alas, one man's junk is another's gold--making useful suggestions is great but complaining just to complain only serves to piss me off! Learn to use your delete key, okay? > Norm, I`m glad you wrote that. I find all the reports to be of value , from the more scientific in nature, to the conversational in tone ( as many of mine are ). From what you`ve said, my reporting style will remain the same, `tho I will certainly heed suggestions for more critical details. I, for one, have a lot of fun with MDO, which I believe is your primary intent. ( I know where the delete key is, and have used it myself. ) " Talk " to you all in a week or so, I`m off to CDA to visit my ma. Doubt I`ll get to do much birding ( sob ). ~Til Next Time Leslie Fisher North East MD