Hi all, I agree with Norm Saunders. One of the reasons I signed on to MDOSPREY was that I enjoy hearing other people's stories about birding. I in no way thought this was an exculsive scientific arena. I thought it was a cool way to keep up on what was happening in the Maryland birding world. Sure, if someone sees a Kirtland's Warbler at Jug Bay, I'd like to know as many details as possible, but remember, nothing prohibits me from actually e-mailing someone directly to get more of the details I wanted. Some of us enjoy birding for the beauty of it. Although I keep a multitude of lists, I sometimes go out to the local pond and just see what I can see. I don't take note of the weather, time, or number of birds I've seen. I just go to look. Lets say my daughter and I are walking in a park and we see something neat. I'd be more likely to stress her reaction or our interaction to the sighting. After all, in the long run, what is more important; the fact that I saw a Yellow-Headed Blackbird at School House Pond or the fact that my seven year old daughter and I saw it together and she called it a Woodpecker (Now, before everyone goes crazy, I did not see a Yellow-Headed Blackbird at School House Pond, I'm only trying to make a point). Please don't misunderstand me. I konw the value of proper scientific observations. I know that as many details as possible regarding sightings can assist others with what ever project they are working on. My main point here is that we should not lose sight of what probably attracted us to birding in the first place. Think back to the first bird you had to look in a guide book to identify. Remember the feeling you had? Remember the person who introduced you to birding and how amazing they seemed to you? Instead of posting downright nasty messages complaining about how someone reports a birding experience, I suggest that you look closer at that report. You may learn more about the true nature of birding from a message like this than you might expect. To me, birding is a wonderful blend of art and science. Don't be too quick to elinate one or the other. It is my strongly held opnion that birding without art is no different than sitting on the side of the road counting cars as they zoom by. You compile numbers for some road expansion study, never really apprecieating the wonderful workmanship of a Roles Royce as it passes by. You never feel the thunder of a Harley Davidson as it makes its presence known. Oh, how much we miss when we fail to look. -Eddie Talik