> and one accipiter that flew right > next to a RTH, very high up. It was the same length and almost the same > wingspan. Think I can add Goshawk to my yard list? Tom, As the saying goes - you can do anything you want with your list! For me, I would want MANY more details than apparent size at a significant distance. Size is one of the trickiest things to gauge, especially against the sky, with no real perspective. I would want to compare the flight patterns, I'd want to see most or all of the definitive marks, and just be really sure I was on target. While anything is possible, one usually enclunters goshawks late in the season - in fact November is often the best time. I think I would be MOST hesitant about putting Goshawk on my list based on the time, and description presented here. Best wishes Tony Futcher tfutcher@cuc.edu -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony G. (Tony) Futcher, Ph.D. e-mail: tfutcher@cuc.edu Director of Records, Columbia Union College fax : 301-891-4121 Takoma Park, MD 20912 office : 301-891-4119 -----------------------------------------------------------------------