RE: Black-throated Blue females ?

Darius Ecker (dariuse@abs.net)
Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:33:09 -0400


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Thanks, Bill.

Your reference kind of supports my interpretation, that sometimes the =
young males look like females except for the one male plumage =
characteristic I've been noticing.  Peterson's "Warblers" shows a young =
male that looks a lot like the adult male while "Warblers of the =
Americas" shows a bird more like you've described below.  The part of =
the wing I've been seeing white is called the alula and makes up the =
feathers  at the wrist of the wing (see Peterson's Warblers).  "Warblers =
of the Americas" shows a plate of a young male almost like I've been =
seeing, except the alula and the primary coverts are brighter white in =
these few birds I've seen (four this fall).

I guess I've answered this question for my self.   These must be the =
young males.  This is confusing.  Compare the plates of young =
Black-throated Blue in a"Warblers" and "Warblers of the Americas".  They =
look nothing alike.

Good Birding,

Darius Ecker (dariuse@abs.net)

Columbia, Maryland.

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From: 	tern[SMTP:tern@visuallink.com]
Sent: 	Thursday, October 01, 1998 8:55 PM
To: 	mdosprey@ARI.Net
Subject: 	Re: Black-throated Blue females ?

Peter Pyle's book "indentification guide to North American Birds"
states "AGE/SEX-    Juv (Jun-Aug) is like HY/SY ,but the plumage is =
heavily
washed with brownish; juv female =3Dmale, although the distinctive
sex-specific plumage of male is often visible before fledging.. =
Basically if
I understand the jargon correctly he is saying that in many cases the =
male
is distinguishable before fledging but not always in which case males =
are
heavily washed brownish. I quoted the book excactly because I don't =
totally
trust my interpretation.
                                                William Leigh
-----Original Message-----
From: Darius Ecker <dariuse@abs.net>
To: 'MDOsprey Mailing List' <MDOsprey@ARI.Net>
Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 5:10 PM
Subject: Black-throated Blue females ?


>I've noticed this year what I thought were female Black-throated Blue
Warblers with a white edge along the lower front edge of the wing.  =
Birds
that are brownish olive in color with a white primary patch.  This =
morning I
saw 6 BTB females, and two of them had this white edge.  Since the adult
male has this white edge, I'm wondering if the birds I'm seeing with =
this
white edge on the wing are in fact the young males. I looked in =
"Warblers of
the Americas" by Curson, Quinn and Beadle and their depiction of a first
year male doesn't show it.
>
>Does anyone know the answer to this ?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Good Birding,
>
>Darius Ecker (dariuse@abs.net)
>
>Columbia, Maryland



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