Kurt, To the best of my recollection here at work, Scarlet Tanagers sometimes show thin white wingbars in the autumn. I believe that Western Tanagers have _thick_ wingbars..... I hope that someone with access to reference material can fill in more details. Best, Rob Hilton robert@csa.com Bethesda, Md. At 09:06 PM 10/7/98 EDT, KurtCapt87@aol.com wrote: >In my rush to post the Western Tanager sighting, a few errors crept in. > >The birds breast was completely unstreaked, the yellow extended down the chest >and to the mid-belly (as I did not view it further down, I do not know if the >yellow extended to the vent). The yellow was uniform in appearance bill to >mid belly and wing pit to wing pit. The wings were grayish not black. > >