Hi! I am only a new member, however, I would like to comment on the idea of the hawkwatch site. A park for birders is a great idea. But, if people are walking their dogs (and they WON'T keep them on leashes) the birds will soon disappear. A good alternative is for strolls, human only, and birding. That way the paths won't get too abused by dogs. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs, but the parks I go in are hard for birds and birders alike when the dogs are running, barking and fighting. Take a look at Robert E Less Park for example. Also, ground nesting birds are not safe if dogs are about off leash. I'd like to join you on your hawkwatch somtime. Anne Brooks Phoenix birdfeeder@compuserve.com