Hi Mike -- I saw a warbler this fall with a gray hood and an obvious broken white eyering, with a very olive -green tone to the back, and a lime-yellow tone to the underparts, with strong yellow undertail coverts, and the throat seemed slightly paler gray (not pale yellow). However, I am sure it was a Mourning Warbler, an immature male, which in fall can show an almost complete gray hood and may also show fairly obvious broken (albeit thin) eye ring. It looked very much like other immatures I have seen in the past. This description isn't much different from your original MacGillivray's post. What you hadn't said was -- this is a ADULT MALE with a broad obvious broken eye ring. As I emailed you earlier -- if you had said that it would have really turned my head! While separation of immatures of the two species is not a simple issue at all, and the field guides make it a bit too clean-cut, the adults are pretty distinctive, although as Bob Ringler cautioned, not always so. I agree with you that Mourning and Connecticut are not as rare in passage as many believe. It is a matter of finding good habitat and getting out there every time you can, and checking out every bird in the depths of the weeds, even if you have already looked at 210 Yellowthroats! Some areas are just better than others -- obviously Wakefield Park has what it takes, and so Layhill Park/Northwest Branch. Rock Creek gets these birds as passage migrants but there is little good habitat to hold them now. There is not a serious field birder in this area (or any other) who has not seen some really good bird that others discounted. If the critter doesn't stick around, then there is nothing to do but count it on YOUR list and everyone else be damned. We (and others) have had what we knew were good records rejected by committees because, in their eyes, we didn't make the case. It's frustrating but it doesn't stop us submitting records, we just make sure we try harder to include all the details and get others to see the bird. I am sorry about the MacGillivray's dustup -- I have no idea why your report was ignored, and I wish now I'd gone to look for the bird. But your experience is by no means unusual. I recall reading in the British journal "Birding Worls" the tale of the first Cedar Waxwing discovered in the UK. The finder had been enjoying a large flock of Waxwings (Bohemian Waxwings to us, their regular species) when he noticed a slightly smaller, yellow-toned bird with no white in the wing. He looked at it for a while through his car window, then laid his head on the steering wheel and wearily exclaimed, "Why me, Lord, why me?" His reaction was because now it was his not inconsiderable responsibility to get the word out, to ensure that the ID was accurate and to endure the intense questioning and scrutiny that accompanies the discovery of a real rarity in Britain. To his credit and joy, the bird stayed for a long time and all the serious British twitchers saw it. Of course, he could have just gone home and had a nice cup of tea and kept his mouth shut... Gail Mackiernan gail@umdd.umd.edu